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re: Reports coming in that the US just killed Iranian General Qasem Soleimani

Posted on 1/3/20 at 5:39 am to
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 5:39 am to
Somewhere is the DC metro area, John Bolton is in his car on the way to the ER because of a 4 hr erection.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38239 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 5:53 am to
I don’t get the hate for Bolton. He was a hard liner cause he understood exactly what we are dealing with in the Middle East.
Granted, I’d prefer not to deal with them at all, but at least he had an understanding of what needed to be done if you insisted on dealing with them.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 6:42 am to
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WTF are you talking about?

Ally? What decade are you referring to?


He’s not completely wrong. Iran has a large secular faction that would be a strong ally of the US if not for the hardliner Islamic faction. They have a democratically elected president, but he doesn’t hold much power in their governmental framework. The Supreme Leader and his counsel hold more power, especially with foreign policy.


So no, Iran will never be a US ally with their current governmental framework. And that framework isn’t changing anytime soon, especially after last nights events. The Ayatollah is going to use it to rally nationalist support.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 6:44 am to
The online panic is really something. People are legitimately freaking out over this. Just breathe, people.
Posted by Theboot32
Mandeville/Poplarville
Member since Jan 2016
2454 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 7:17 am to
This thread is pretty pathetic, but a good snapshot of where we are as a country. Everyone would rather get their digs in on the other political side rather than discussing the actual events and what happens next. Even the links and quotes, just other people trying to get their hot takes in on why Trump is a dipshit or a hero. I cant wait til this divisive period is over, but will probably get worse before it gets better.

If you arent someone who understands the middle east and has significant experience over there, your opinion doesn't matter.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53608 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 7:22 am to
Only if you want a lot of dead Americans.

Airborne is best for taking objectives, not holding it against a static insurgency.

You’ll want some mechanized infantry for that.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 7:26 am to
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If you arent someone who understands the middle east and has significant experience over there, your opinion doesn't matter.


You were doing fine until this gem. This is a bad take.
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
91793 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 7:27 am to
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I don’t get the hate for Bolton
a full blown warmonger, I hate his type.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46721 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 7:27 am to
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If you arent someone who understands the middle east and has significant experience over there, your opinion doesn't matter.




Oh frick off dude. It's an internet message board. The whole point is discussion.

This post was edited on 1/3/20 at 7:28 am
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 7:28 am to
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The online panic is really something. People are legitimately freaking out over this. Just breathe, people.


Can you not comprehend how this shite could go south in a matter of weeks? The embers of war are steadily burning over there and a fan just got turned on. Maybe we are able to de-escalate. If not, sides will be chosen.
Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
17040 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 7:31 am to
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“Okay that’s enough facts for today, now back to our usual propaganda routine...” - CNN


You didn't even need the pics. You could have just waited until Anderson Cooper compared the Iranian general to Charles DeGaulle.
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
32623 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 7:36 am to
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Reports coming in that the US just killed Iranian General Qasem Soleimani
This thread is pretty pathetic, but a good snapshot of where we are as a country. Everyone would rather get their digs in on the other political side rather than discussing the actual events and what happens next. Even the links and quotes, just other people trying to get their hot takes in on why Trump is a dipshit or a hero. I cant wait til this divisive period is over, but will probably get worse before it gets better.



Yeah everyone is all in on the "frick CNN" narrative when they just had an informative and solid interview with Mike Pompeo.

Adam Kinzinger (Iraq war vet and Republican) is on there now.

MSNBC is the worst. Scarbrough has been talking politics this morning and mostly avoiding this story.
This post was edited on 1/3/20 at 7:36 am
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 7:36 am to
Lol at calling Trump weak and ineffective in that link.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46721 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 7:37 am to
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Can you not comprehend how this shite could go south in a matter of weeks?



Iran isn't going to do shite. They knew exactly what that shitstain general was and has been doing for years. And no one is in Iran's corner on this, or anything else. Especially since everyone knows it was Iran behind the US Embassy attack.

They'll saber rattle to stir up their populace to keep the theocracy in power, and that's it.



This post was edited on 1/3/20 at 7:38 am
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 7:38 am to
quote:

quote:
The online panic is really something. People are legitimately freaking out over this. Just breathe, people.


quote:

Can you not comprehend how this shite could go south in a matter of weeks? The embers of war are steadily burning over there and a fan just got turned on. Maybe we are able to de-escalate. If not, sides will be chosen.



Are they? I see a lot of saber ratting happening from Iran's side, but there won't be a war.

Iran isn't stupid. They understand what would happen to their country.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 7:38 am to
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We could literally fight the entire world simultaneously and win


No, we couldn't (unless the military has something we don't know about that would be a game changer)
Posted by babymaker
Tornillo, TX
Member since Jul 2004
1326 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 7:39 am to
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And no one is in Iran's corner on this, or anything else
MSM and the left say hello.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46721 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 7:40 am to
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MSM and the left say hello.


I was speaking of nation-states, not dildo-wavers.

Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
17040 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 7:42 am to
One good thing about this. This might work as an incentive to keep certain former bureaucratic fricksticks from meeting with people like this and undercutting American foreign policy while doing it. I'm talking to you Lurch.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122534 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 7:50 am to
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Look up Air Craft carriers and who has them. If we wanted to we could obliterate Tehran and never get in sight of the coast.



I don't know enough about this situation to discuss it. That's why I am reading this thread, to try to get a better idea of things, but this would be my assumption. I would think we are way ahead of Iran's military.
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