re: Reports coming in that the US just killed Iranian General Qasem Soleimani

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And that somehow improves the long-term national security?

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And "nation building" does?

A war with Iran - John Bolton's dream come true.
Meanwhile the country of origin of those who actually did invade and attack the U.S. on U.S. soil is our bestie.

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And that somehow improves the long-term national security?

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don't know. We haven't tried it yet.

Define "long-term national security". How long is that? And what's national security? is it no one planting a bomb at the boston marathon? Is it no one attacking our embassies? Not hacking our financial institutions? Is it not having 2 suicidal fanatics shoot up an office building in California in the name of Islam?
Cause all that shite has happened andis gonna happen as long as the west- specifically the US- exists. We cannot appease these people. Not the mullah, not the terrorist, not even the nomadic goat herder as long as they are Muslim. All we can do is make it clear that attacking us isn't worth the results.

and since they are still likely to attack us anyway, at least we wont sit by like pacifists letting them continuously inflict harm that goes unanswered.

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I guess it really shouldn't be that surprising that people are calling for a genocide.

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I haven't called for genocide. They did. I just think we should provide it.


you're the typical apologist. You think everything is our fault. Its not. These frickers- and that's just what they are, frickers- are and have been hating us and want to destroy us even if it kills them. Well lets facilitate that. They want to die for their religious or political views, lets accommodate them.

Get it through your head, there is no peace or coexistence with these people. Just one long protracted conflict. And your answer is the same things that haven't ended the conflict in all these years? What will that result in?

So your stance is that killing tens or hundreds of millions of people will end the violence once and for all? fricking genius, man.

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I haven't called for genocide. They did. I just think we should provide it.

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So you're not calling for a genocide, but you think we should provide one. Got it.


Seek help.

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Might as well kill everyone of Baha'i faith, amirite?

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Yes. Those frickers are annoying.

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Congress authorized military force in Iraq, and this Guy was the leader of a terrorist group actively carrying out attacks against Americans in the combat zone.

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That's an extremely slippery slope. So, we just need a member of a foreign state to visit Iraq and we can kill them?

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So, we just need a member of a foreign state to visit Iraq and we can kill them?

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We can when they've been declared a terrorist and responsible for most of the IED attacks in Iraq over the past ten years, not to mention the embassy attack a few days ago.

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The spleen, your legal take earlier in the thread is plain wrong and every legal mind on Twitter is calling out that take.

The strike was absolutely constitutional. Congress authorized military force in Iraq, and this Guy was the leader of a terrorist group actively carrying out attacks against Americans in the combat zone.

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I've been wrong before, so no biggie.

I think it's a specious legal argument that because a military leader of a country we haven't declared war on was in a country where we have declared war on an ambiguous "terrorism" platform, we had authority to kill him in an act of war. I don't know that that was the intent of the AUMF originally passed in 2001 and abused by every president since then. But in the end, it's not really worth fighting, and we should instead focus on taking that power away from the President. Acts of war should always go through Congress, not the White House. This is a very dangerous precedent.

And I say all that fully realizing this guy deserved to die.