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re: Remember Those Founders that Did Not Fare So Well After We Won
Posted on 7/1/26 at 9:08 am to BamaCoaster
Posted on 7/1/26 at 9:08 am to BamaCoaster
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Have you read common sense or rights of man?
Yup, have you read Agrarian Justice? In which he argues for UBI and early forms of other welfare? Guess who he wanted to tax for em too.
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Posted on 7/1/26 at 9:08 am to PurpleandGold Motown
I remember reading a JPJ biography in 4th or 5th grade not exactly like the one below but similar. "I have not yet begun to fight" is what I remember the most.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 9:09 am to PurpleandGold Motown
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Sidenote: It is against the law of the land to block his tombs view of the Sea.
So is the US Navy breaking the law? I don't see how his tomb has a view of the water.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 9:12 am to BamaCoaster
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Without Paine, I could make a strong argument that we would not have had our revolution.
Paine moved to America just six months before Lexington and Concord, and Common Sense was not published until almost a year after that.
Not to diminish his contribution, but the success of Common Sense was due to the revolutionary spirit of the time, not the other way around.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 9:50 am to PCRammer
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So is the US Navy breaking the law? I don't see how his tomb has a view of the water.
I Mandelaed myself. I thought it was JPJ but it's the tomb of the unknown. But I still think I did a time skip since CERN started to shut down.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 9:53 am to UptownJoeBrown
My dad's side of the family is in this group. They arrived well before the revolution and did very well for themselves. While they didn't end up destitute, they loaned the majority of their wealth to the war effort and were never repaid. Our name has a commemorative brick in a chapel at Valley Forge, apparently. We've looked for it, but didn't see it.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 10:07 am to BamaCoaster
Hijack:
Aren't you the guy who opened the cajun/creole restaurant in Liverpool? Care to bump your thread with an update?
Aren't you the guy who opened the cajun/creole restaurant in Liverpool? Care to bump your thread with an update?
Posted on 7/1/26 at 2:45 pm to grizzlylongcut
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He actually seems kinda like an a-hole.
Yes. Faux scholar.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 4:03 pm to McLemore
Thomas Paine is still the most relevant on the list. If you have not read Common Sense or The Crisis as an adult, I recommend it. You have a totally different perspective over when we had to read it in high school.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 4:23 pm to UptownJoeBrown
Today our leaders preach socialism while they profit off of the capitalist that gave everything for their freedom. I often wonder what will trigger a breaking point.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 5:41 pm to Master of Sinanju
quote:With 100% of the proceeds to support the war effort.
Common Sense was not published until almost a year after that.
Plus he named “The United States of America”. And designed and built the first iron bridge in America. And probably was the author of the Declaration of Independence.
ETA: Typo fixed.
This post was edited on 7/1/26 at 6:22 pm
Posted on 7/1/26 at 6:08 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
Every LA school child should be taught about Oliver Pollock
Financier of the Am Rev
Financier of the Am Rev
Posted on 7/1/26 at 6:08 pm to Bullfrog
“The United Stars of America”.
—-Stars?
—-Stars?
Posted on 7/1/26 at 6:20 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
We’re going to destroy the Bosnians tonight 
Posted on 7/1/26 at 6:21 pm to UptownJoeBrown
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The last sentence:
“And for the support of this declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.”
Heros. All of them.
God bless them and God bless the United States of America.
What a sad country we have become from their selfless sacrifices.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 6:46 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
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"Light-Horse Harry" Lee (Henry Lee III, 1756–1818)
Contributions: Renowned cavalry commander in the Continental Army, known for daring raids and leadership (e.g., in the Southern Campaign). Father of Robert E. Lee. Served as a governor and congressman postwar.
Ignominious end: Speculation and debts led to time in debtors' prison. He faced financial ruin and died in reduced circumstances on Cumberland Island, Georgia, in 1818 while traveling.
Dude couldn't run his plantation and lost most of his wealth in one of the Panics. Then fled to the Caribbean to avoid his debtors
Posted on 7/1/26 at 6:48 pm to cypresstiger
Posted on 7/1/26 at 6:48 pm to dgnx6
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You owe everything to a jew.
Figuratively, yeah.
Literally, probably.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 7:10 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
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the only man to actually invade Great Britain, frick a noblewoman and take one silver plate after the Revolutionary war?
He was directly responsible for men surviving the winter at Valley Forge because he intercepted a ship bearing 1000s of British winter gear and took it home to support the troops in the field. At the height of his powers, he died alone in Paris? PARIS? He should have been head of the Navy through his own accomplishments, but...politics.
Respect.
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