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Refineries Are Now the Main Chokepoint for Global Energy Supplies
Posted on 9/20/26 at 8:38 am
Posted on 9/20/26 at 8:38 am
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Persian Gulf states and Russia have invested tens of billions of dollars in refineries over the past decade to grab a bigger share of the global diesel market. Now, war in both regions has sent exports plunging, squeezing supplies of a fuel that powers much of the global economy.
Diesel prices are soaring—they eclipsed $6 a gallon in the U.S. for the first time this month and have kept climbing, hitting $6.45 on Friday. The surge has rattled governments and markets around the world that rely on diesel as the workhorse of their industry, transportation and agriculture. Shortages have appeared at gas stations in rural Brazil, in Libya and some African nations that can’t afford to import the fuel.
The Iran and Ukraine wars left the U.S. as the producer of last resort for diesel and other refined products, but momentum is now growing to ban exports of the fuel to lower prices ahead of the midterm elections. Rep. Tim Burchett (R., Tenn.) introduced a bill this past week to ban exports. Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R., S.D.), said he was open to the idea.
A U.S. ban would likely send prices for the rest of the world soaring—and potentially push other big diesel exporters such as China and India to follow suit. Russia has already sharply restricted exports because of damage to its refineries caused by Ukrainian drone strikes; a facility in Moscow was hit in the latest attack this weekend, the city’s mayor said. China has limited its refinery exports, while India has imposed an export tax on diesel and gasoline.
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The market for refined fuels is global. Products are transported on huge tankers around the world, much like crude oil. Before the Iran war, Middle East refiners tended to ship to Asia and Europe. U.S. refiners exported large quantities of diesel to Europe, while European refiners often exported gasoline to the U.S. Russia sold diesel to Turkey, India and China.
The squeeze on the Strait of Hormuz and the Ukraine war have short-circuited those trade flows. Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates and Iraq have been forced to slash diesel exports. The escalation of Houthi attacks in recent weeks has limited Saudi Arabia’s exports from its Red Sea refineries, hitting the country’s main route to bypass the Strait of Hormuz.
The disruption has been compounded by Ukraine’s increasingly successful attacks on Russian refineries, which have nearly halted exports. The difference between the price of crude and the price of diesel in many markets also hit a record high.
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Refineries in the West have been running near capacity and shifting to diesel production, away from other refined products such as gasoline and jet fuel. That hasn’t done much to fill the gap left by the Middle East and Russia.
China is the one country outside the Middle East and Russia that has significant spare refining capacity. Yet its refiners have limited their crude oil purchases and avoided running their facilities at full capacity. Gelder said the reason for that could be that China, the world’s largest crude importer, wants to avoid driving up the price of crude.
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Posted on 9/20/26 at 8:45 am to ragincajun03
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momentum is now growing to ban exports of the fuel to lower prices ahead of the midterm elections. Rep. Tim Burchett (R., Tenn.) introduced a bill this past week to ban exports. Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R., S.D.), said he was open to the idea.
Finally some America First ideas
Posted on 9/20/26 at 8:49 am to ragincajun03
quote:Whoa, this “news” will really keep me up tonight.
Shortages have appeared at gas stations in rural Brazil, in Libya and some African nations that can’t afford to import the fuel.
Second and Third World countries experiencing Second and Third World country things.
Posted on 9/20/26 at 8:53 am to ragincajun03
No shite.
Trump said this his first term and pushed to increase capacity.
Sadly, the brakes were put on any momentum to build new or expand when Brandon and the Whore stole 2020.
Trump said this his first term and pushed to increase capacity.
Sadly, the brakes were put on any momentum to build new or expand when Brandon and the Whore stole 2020.
This post was edited on 9/20/26 at 8:59 am
Posted on 9/20/26 at 8:56 am to ragincajun03
Sounds like the solution here is to invest more in High Speed Rail.
/s
/s
Posted on 9/20/26 at 8:58 am to Cosmo
Trump would never allow a block. He is so fixated on the trade deficit, this is the only thing that is really helping
Posted on 9/20/26 at 8:59 am to ragincajun03
When a fuel price bitch thread is started, puppies get sad.


Posted on 9/20/26 at 9:00 am to Cosmo
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Finally some America First ideas
Great for us in the short term but eventually domestic producers would cut production if they can't sell into the higher-priced markets
The geopolitical downside is we basically tell our allies, “when things get tight, you’re on your own,” which makes us look less reliable and gives Russia and China more room to gain influence.
Posted on 9/20/26 at 9:01 am to ragincajun03
These senseless wars have got to stop
Posted on 9/20/26 at 9:03 am to stout
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eventually domestic producers would cut production if they can't sell into the higher-priced markets
I would have to disagree with this.
Posted on 9/20/26 at 9:04 am to soccerfüt
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Second and Third World countries experiencing Second and Third World country things.
China & Russia are second world. 1st, 2nd, 3rd was determined by allegiance to us or ussr.
Posted on 9/20/26 at 9:07 am to UptownJoeBrown
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I would have to disagree with this.
Fair but I am not 100% wrong.
Production would still be cut, though. We physically cannot use all the diesel we currently produce. There is like a 1 million BPD gap between what we use vs what we produce
Posted on 9/20/26 at 9:11 am to stout
I seen yesterday where they're talking about re-starting the shuttered oil refinery in St Croix to help refine the Venezuela oil.
Posted on 9/20/26 at 9:12 am to stout
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Production would still be cut, though. We physically cannot use all the diesel we currently produce. There is like a 1 million BPD gap between what we use vs what we produce
Then allow export of that 1 million
To countries that most closely align with non NWO policies
This post was edited on 9/20/26 at 9:13 am
Posted on 9/20/26 at 9:12 am to ragincajun03
What isn’t helping the situation is the European countries being outright hostile to anything having to do with gas and oil production.
Now, they are going to be dealing with the consequences of those policies. This was shortsightedness on their part but they bought into the green promises that make sense to everyone without the capacity to do math.
This is seriously bad for everyone without native oil production and refining capacity and mildly bad for those that do have it.
Now, they are going to be dealing with the consequences of those policies. This was shortsightedness on their part but they bought into the green promises that make sense to everyone without the capacity to do math.
This is seriously bad for everyone without native oil production and refining capacity and mildly bad for those that do have it.
Posted on 9/20/26 at 9:20 am to stout
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Great for us in the short term but eventually domestic producers would cut production if they can't sell into the higher-priced markets
Yep. It would cause a worldwide shortage and recession if not worse. US wouldn't escape it, we would just dodge high energy prices through a 2008 style economic collapse.
Posted on 9/20/26 at 9:24 am to ragincajun03
Wow, just can’t get over all the winning.
Posted on 9/20/26 at 9:26 am to Cosmo
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Then allow export of that 1 million
To countries that most closely align with non NWO policies
We are exporting around 1.5MM/day out of the Gulf coast alone.
You could certainly limit the export volume and refiners would reduce to meet that demand. Would likely take 3-5 months to see the US prices fall back to pre-war range as that is how long the ripple will take to settle with low inventories.
Prices in Asia and Europe would skyrocket as would global inflation.
Posted on 9/20/26 at 9:31 am to stout
Who gives a shite about incels a world away, we need cheaper diesel quick.
Posted on 9/20/26 at 9:52 am to stout
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The geopolitical downside is we basically tell our allies, “when things get tight, you’re on your own,” which makes us look less reliable and gives Russia and China more room to gain influence.
Yep, help out the historic allies and tell them they better remember who showed up for them or suffer the eventual consequences of not showing up for the U.S. in return.

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