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Reason: CDC Antibody Studies Confirm Huge Gap Between COVID-19 Infections and Known Cases
Posted on 6/28/20 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 6/28/20 at 6:51 pm
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This echoes what I was saying earlier today. It seems to be much more important that masks are worn at home than in public.
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Newly published antibody test results from half a dozen parts of the country confirm that COVID-19 infections in the United States far outnumber confirmed cases. The ratio of estimated infections to known cases in these studies, which the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reported on Friday, range from 6 to 1 in Connecticut as of early May to 24 to 1 in Missouri as of late April.
These results confirm something we already knew: The COVID-19 infection fatality rate—deaths as a share of all infections—is much lower than the crude case fatality rate—deaths as a share of known cases. That is bound to be true when testing is limited and a virus typically produces mild or no symptoms. At the same time, the CDC's antibody studies imply that efforts to control the epidemic through testing, isolation, quarantine, and contact tracing will not be very effective, since they reach only a small percentage of virus carriers.
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Since neither contact tracing nor a vaccine is likely to save high-risk Texans, the ultimate death toll will depend largely on precautions aimed at protecting them. Gov. Greg Abbott has responded to the new wave of infections, which he says is driven largely by young people who have been getting together for drinks in close proximity, by closing bars. But if young Texans are increasingly disinclined to follow social distancing rules, that step may not accomplish much. They can still get together in private, and their risk of exposure will in any case be higher as they return to work. Nor can those people, whose own risk of dying from COVID-19 is very low, necessarily be counted on to avoid contact with Texans who are much more vulnerable to the disease.
The onus for preventing contact between potential carriers and high-risk individuals seems to be shifting, fairly or not, from the first group to the second. Minimizing COVID-19 deaths will require adapting to that reality.
This echoes what I was saying earlier today. It seems to be much more important that masks are worn at home than in public.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 6:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
I wear masks around my elderly relatives. Been doing this for months.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 6:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Gov. Greg Abbott has responded to the new wave of infections, which he says is driven largely by young people who have been getting together for drinks in close proximity, by closing bars. But if young Texans are increasingly disinclined to follow social distancing rules, that step may not accomplish much.
Are we just going to ignore the protests and blame bars instead?
Posted on 6/28/20 at 6:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
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range from 6 to 1 in Connecticut as of early May to 24 to 1 in Missouri as of late April.
So do they say the estimated total US count up to this point? I had read somewhere, think it was the Penn State study that they estimate about 40m American have had it through the end of May
This post was edited on 6/28/20 at 6:58 pm
Posted on 6/28/20 at 6:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
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It seems to be much more important that masks are worn at home than in public.
I've worn masks when visiting my wife's grandparents.
Its weird wearing a mask at a place where you are typically as comfortable and relaxed as you can get, but I get it.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 7:03 pm to Tiguar
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I wear masks around my elderly relatives. Been doing this for months.
We just pull up the driveway and put the kids in the bed of truck.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 7:13 pm to Tiguar
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I wear masks around my elderly relatives. Been doing this for months.
We just sit outside when I visit my parents or other older relatives
Posted on 6/28/20 at 7:15 pm to NIH
Everyone should check their white covid priveledge.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 7:17 pm to Ghost of Colby
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Are we just going to ignore the protests and blame bars instead?
Of course protests were a contributing factor, but you’re being unrealistic if you think that is on the same order of magnitude as the bar scene.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 7:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
Dirty motherfricks should clean their houses more often and leave some doors or windows open from time to time..
Posted on 6/28/20 at 7:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
How many statues do we need to tear down in order to defeat COVID?
Posted on 6/28/20 at 7:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
COVID probably started nearly 12 months ago In the US they just didn’t know what it was/thought it was a weird flu. Of course many more people have antibodies than what they started tracking like 4 months ago.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 7:22 pm to Penrod
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Of course protests were a contributing factor, but you’re being unrealistic if you think that is on the same order of magnitude as the bar scene.
Lmao. Shut the frick up. You cannot possibly believe that 100 people going to a bar is worse than 1000 people congregated in the streets.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 7:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
very good article my guy..I wear mask around my gramps. also negative antibody test for me
Posted on 6/28/20 at 7:25 pm to WaydownSouth
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You cannot possibly believe that 100 people going to a bar is worse than 1000 people congregated in the streets.
it probably is. indoor transmission is a lot more common than outdoor
and there were a lot more people in bars than protesting
Posted on 6/28/20 at 7:26 pm to Mr Perfect
i am supposed to go see my family in TX next weekend but i think i am going to have to cancel
Posted on 6/28/20 at 7:27 pm to Ghost of Colby
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Are we just going to ignore the protests and blame bars instead?
Yes, according to coward governor Abbot.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 7:27 pm to WaydownSouth
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You cannot possibly believe that 100 people going to a bar is worse than 1000 people congregated in the streets.
Everything I've read is that indoor transmission is worse than outdoor. The protests definitely contributed to the spread of the virus, but packed bars is a recipe for a super spreader event.
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