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re: Re: the NOLA bashing.... There are a few good things happening slowly.

Posted on 4/27/18 at 1:26 pm to
Posted by PrettyBird
Aspen
Member since Feb 2010
10400 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 1:26 pm to
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Homeless scumbags are about the only thing New Orleans has in come with San Francisco.



Agreed. Louisiana in general could replace the word Nola.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26324 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 1:34 pm to
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Gentrifying a few neighborhoods isn't going to change anything. FYI functional people are leaving again.

Most recent statistics show more people leaving than coming and Black population increasing (a very fecund people) , that isn't gentrification no matter how much you want to spin.


For white collar jobs, New Orleans is barely competitive with Birmingham, Baton Rouge, or Mobile. It's atrocious and pathetic that Louisiana's largest metro is such a dump, but major changes aren't going to happen unless the good jobs materialize.

Semi-affluent people require those pesky things called employers if you want them to stick around for more than a weekend. And I don't mean bars, restaurants, and hotels.
Posted by Slippy
Across the rivah
Member since Aug 2005
7394 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 1:34 pm to
So, what's the answer, guys? Are all inner cities irredeemable? And if they are, is every other place doomed?

Are we doomed to an eternity of fleeing to the places where there are no people, only to leave again when the people show up? Should we build the walls around our gated communities higher and higher to keep the bad people out?

I'm a conservative, but that is a very pessimistic view of humanity and the future that I don't really want a part of.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32998 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 1:36 pm to
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Are we doomed to an eternity of fleeing to the places where there are no people,


Most educated, productive people that leave New Orleans are going a lot farther away than the suburbs.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
82760 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 1:36 pm to
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Paris is dirtier than NOLA.

It is not.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
82760 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 1:38 pm to
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So, what's the answer, guys? Are all inner cities irredeemable? And if they are, is every other place doomed?

As long as Section 8 is on the books, swaths of prime urban real estate will be ruined.
Posted by Captain Crackysack
Member since Oct 2017
2231 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 1:39 pm to
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 It's a tourism and trade city.

Yeah. Just a trade city that happens to have the biggest port in the entire country
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32998 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 1:44 pm to
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Importing more batshit liberals into a city dominated by ghetto and liberals is not the way to save a city.


New Orleans needs a shite load more productive people just to tread water.
Posted by PrettyBird
Aspen
Member since Feb 2010
10400 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:11 pm to
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Are all inner cities irredeemable?


No.

But, gentrification is real and is hard to stop. I think finding that balance is the tough part... how do you build up an inner city to make it attractive to productive/successful/progressive people, yet keep housing affordable for the folks who have been there. And not only housing but all the amenities need to be kept affordable too.

I am all for having a diverse city/area. But hell, I wouldn't want to come home every day after working hard at my job and contributing to society - and find my neighborhood gone to hell because of a few lower income areas that DGAF about their community and surroundings. How do you make people care??

Conundrum.
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6422 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:13 pm to
Dear Mayor Landrieu,
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27872 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:18 pm to
I definitely think NOLA is getting better in some aspects. It's really good to see whenever I go back.

But it's the rate at which these good things are happening that needs to change. I know it doesn't happen overnight, but it's progress is extremely slow.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119285 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:19 pm to
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Are all inner cities irredeemable


What? Most cities have improved over the last decade. The difference is whether it has materially improved, in terms of jobs, government, and infrastructure or surface level improved, with new restaurants, bars, breweries, and hotels. New Orleans is an example of the latter. Places like Pittsburgh, Nashville, and Kansas City are examples of the former.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
35369 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:21 pm to
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One time I was in New Orleans and this homeless dude was just taking a dump on the sidewalk in broad daylight


I really don't want to know about YOUR bathroom habits, but you can still get into the Ozanam Inn and with the good weather coming, it may not be as crowded.

Dude, don't do that kind of stuff anymore....it's kind of disgusting
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
35369 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:25 pm to
Some parts of Paris where all the African and Middle Eastern migrants have set up tent cities routinely look like St. Charles Ave after the Sunday Mardi Gras parades
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
58288 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:29 pm to
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You must never visit San Francisco

No, I'm heterosexual
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6422 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:31 pm to
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quote:
You must never visit San Francisco

No, I'm heterosexual



Posted by PrettyBird
Aspen
Member since Feb 2010
10400 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:34 pm to
Silly me, I forget how small minded the OT is. Thanks for the reminder, chief.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
58288 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:39 pm to
You're a chick right?
Posted by tigercross
Member since Feb 2008
5050 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:50 pm to
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I still haven't figured out who is purchasing the 2 bedroom shotgun houses for $700,000.



This isn't really a thing. Only 7 2 bedroom houses sold for $700k in the past year. Three were in the Quarter and one is a 2,300 sq ft house on Grand Rte St John.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40117 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:50 pm to
There seems to be two types of people coming here and gentrifying the hood.

1) Wealthy out of state types who are looking to start small businesses, especially in non-techy industries.

2) Wealthy out of state types who are here as do-gooders, the Teach for America types.

I think most of the first group is going to stay. The second group seems more likely to rent these high-dollar places for a few years, then roll out to their next adventure.
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