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re: Rate of increase in cases in Italy has come down even thought testing is increasing.

Posted on 3/19/20 at 12:23 pm to
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 3/19/20 at 12:23 pm to
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For them sure but Italy has done a shitload more social distancing and self quarantining than we have.



when did their complete lock down begin?
Posted by Tiguar
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Posted on 3/19/20 at 12:23 pm to
in direct conflict with this article

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The only sure thing is that the data arriving from Lombardy are now unusable. There is a saturation effect that distorts them. For those who, like me, do this type of analysis it is better not to take them into consideration and focus on other areas of Italy.


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From what we know, the Lombard hospitals, now on the verge of collapse, send back many people with symptoms without taking a swab. And therefore the number of infected people is largely underestimated. But as the mayors of Bergamasco report, there is also an incorrect estimate of the deaths. Many now die at home without tests and not in intensive care, so they are not counted as deaths for Covid-19 in official reports


at least in Lombard
This post was edited on 3/19/20 at 12:24 pm
Posted by Jizzy08
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Posted on 3/19/20 at 12:23 pm to
So if they’re testing more and not just the super sick ones, then the rate would naturally go down because you’re also testing healthy people.
Posted by Anaximander
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Posted on 3/19/20 at 12:24 pm to
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For them sure but Italy has done a shitload more social distancing and self quarantining than we have.


They are now but initially they were more like New Orleans.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-18/what-went-wrong-with-how-italy-handled-coronavirus/12062242
Posted by Volvagia
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Posted on 3/19/20 at 12:24 pm to
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aren't we only supposed to be like 2 weeks behind Italy? if so, this is fantastic news

someone correct me if I'm just talking nonsense though



You do realize it didn’t just happen. And the virus isn’t simply winding down.


The entire country is on lock down. And has been for almost 2 weeks.
This post was edited on 3/19/20 at 12:25 pm
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 3/19/20 at 12:27 pm to
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You do realize it didn’t just happen


Yes...

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And the virus isn’t simply winding down.



I'm aware...

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The entire country is on lock down. And has been for almost 2 weeks.


I consider this good news, considering some people talking about locking down for months
Posted by tigerinthebueche
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Posted on 3/19/20 at 12:27 pm to
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For them sure but Italy has done a shitload more social distancing and self quarantining than we have.


doc, you can't have it both ways. I've heard repeatedly that the reason Italy has had such devastation is BECASUE they didn't distance and self quarantine. I was told by numerous outlets that exactly why we had to do so. well which is it? Either they didn't, and the illness is petering out regardless. OR they did and they still had devastation.





Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 3/19/20 at 12:29 pm to
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Either they didn't, and the illness is petering out regardless. OR they did and they still had devastation.



they waited too long

Posted by Sasquatch Smash
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Posted on 3/19/20 at 12:29 pm to
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For them sure but Italy has done a shitload more social distancing and self quarantining than we have.


Perhaps, but, to our benefit, the population density in Italy is about six times as high as the United States (~532/sq mi vs. ~93/sq mi).
Posted by Anaximander
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Posted on 3/19/20 at 12:30 pm to
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doc, you can't have it both ways. I've heard repeatedly that the reason Italy has had such devastation is BECASUE they didn't distance and self quarantine. I was told by numerous outlets that exactly why we had to do so. well which is it? Either they didn't, and the illness is petering out regardless. OR they did and they still had devastation.








People in Italy were first urged to go out until things got worse. THEN the lockdown.
Posted by Anaximander
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Posted on 3/19/20 at 12:32 pm to
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So if they’re testing more and not just the super sick ones, then the rate would naturally go down because you’re also testing healthy people.



The percentage of positive tests would go down. Not the number of positives.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 3/19/20 at 12:32 pm to
Al Jezeera is more reputable than CNN or MSNBC
Posted by reverendotis
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Posted on 3/19/20 at 12:32 pm to
Datsa gooda news

Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/19/20 at 12:33 pm to
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People in Italy were first urged to go out until things got worse. THEN the lockdown.



ok. and yet, the rate of increase is apparently coming down. So maybe its not as bad as we fear? Nothing to take lightly, but not the angel of death we've been led to believe?
Posted by Bench McElroy
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Posted on 3/19/20 at 12:36 pm to
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sadly i'd probably anything Al Jazeera says before I trust NBC/ABC/CNN


Contrary to what a lot of people believe, Al Jazeera English is a very credible news organization.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 3/19/20 at 12:38 pm to
Thanks
Posted by OGtigerfan87
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Posted on 3/19/20 at 12:45 pm to
This is one point I haven’t heard talked about enough. We are a way more spread out country than just about any European or Asian Country. If we just commit to half the social distancing that they have we should be in better shape than even them you would think. I mean with the geography of our country with are kinda naturally socially distanced except for a couple of places
This post was edited on 3/19/20 at 12:46 pm
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 3/19/20 at 12:47 pm to
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when did their complete lock down begin?


March 12

Too many people here still DGAF though. All the idiots partying balls on Spring Break, the people packing bars and restaurants, concerts that still went on, the packed international terminals in the airports this last weekend.

Then we have to consider all the people w/o health insurance or sick leave who are just flat out not going to go to the doctor or stop going to work.

Italy made a lot of mistakes early on but has done a good job of realizing they need people to isolate.

We have repeated many of their mistakes (politicians encouraging people to go out to restaurants, shutting down travel to China but not other countries, flat out indifference) and I don't yet see enough people taking the social distancing recommendations seriously enough. Obviously different states are being more proactive than others but here in Texas it's looking like we are going to get kicked squarely in the balls b/c Gov Abbott is essentially leaving it up to each city on how to respond, we are severely lacking in testing (only 1200 as of yesterday), and we have a very high amount of uninsured people.

At least we aren't as bad as Florida w/our response but that ain't saying much.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/19/20 at 12:47 pm to
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We are a way more spread out country than just about any European or Asian Country


Who else would compare to us in terms of population being spread out? Russia?
Posted by Anaximander
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Posted on 3/19/20 at 12:53 pm to
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We are a way more spread out country than just about any European or Asian Country


Who else would compare to us in terms of population being spread out? Russia?




Italy is 200 people per square kilometer to 34 in the United States.
This post was edited on 3/19/20 at 12:54 pm
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