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re: Quiet Quitting? Well that a new term.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 2:48 pm to EarlyCuyler3
Posted on 8/20/22 at 2:48 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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It's the rational response when you realize the deck is completely stacked against you.
The rational response is to find skills that make you valuable. Then market them.
It is not rational to frick off at a job you hate for ten years. It’s stupid and lazy.
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 2:48 pm to RogerTheShrubber
huh?
Posted on 8/20/22 at 2:49 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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There is some truth to that, but you know what the solution most people realize is? Doing just enough to get a paycheck.
It's the rational response when you realize the deck is completely stacked against you.
Employers have been doing just enough to retain employees for awhile now.
Employers have been doing just enough to retain customers for awhile now.
Now more employees are doing the same and employers are pissed.
The whole concept of getting paid by the hour tends towards laziness. At most companies no matter how hard you work you're still going to have to be there 40+ hours and you will make the same as the laziest person there.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 2:49 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:we gonna get details on this or nah
You've shared all of this. Why do act like it didn't happen half the time?
Posted on 8/20/22 at 2:50 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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because there has been a shift in the labor market?
Just different avenues. Now its tech which presented opportunities that didn't exist before.
its impossible not to succeed today.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 2:50 pm to RogerTheShrubber
ok. no one is arguing otherwise
Posted on 8/20/22 at 2:51 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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because there has been a shift in the labor market? yeah that makes sense
You don’t think our labor market shifted?
Unions had just sold out the younger generation or were being busted. The idea of a job for life died with us. Hippies turned yuppies were crowding us out. The APR on a house was 18% with a 20% down payment, nonnegotiable.
You aren’t a unique snowflake. Read that again. Prior generations had struggles equal to yours. You are not special.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 2:51 pm to WestCoastAg
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we gonna get details on this or nah
Roger "used" to be a serious alcoholic and drug abuser. It got so bad his wife left him and took his daughter with her. He has admitted all of this.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 2:51 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Damn
Posted on 8/20/22 at 2:52 pm to JudgeHolden
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The rational response is to find skills that make you valuable. Then market them.
That's the point y'all don't get. It doesn't matter what your skills are any more. Unless you're in sales, most things have a set scale and the only way to improve it is by leaving your current job for another one. And by also just making shite up and bullshitting your way to a higher wage.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 2:52 pm to JudgeHolden
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But they won’t tomorrow. When the new generation comes along, they’ll dump the 45s who are doing the minimum and cycle in 25s.
Where the frick do y’all work? Your company’s law office must be a lot less risk adverse than mine. Been with the company 25 years. I’ve seen 4 people fired in my department. Previous poster is right. Places would kill right now for just a steady dependable workforce.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 2:53 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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It doesn't matter what your skills are any more
Spoken like the neediest, least capable human on earth.
Holy shite
Posted on 8/20/22 at 2:54 pm to JudgeHolden
quote:yes, there has been a recent shift in the labor's favor and that is why "the system" has a bigger problem than the "individual" at the moment
You don’t think our labor market shifted?
Posted on 8/20/22 at 2:54 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Spoken like the neediest, least capable human on earth.
Well I ain't working the docks or drawing a government check like you Roger.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 2:56 pm to Chuck Barris
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The more time and effort you spend on your primary job, the less you have left over to use gaining new skills to escape that job. Working harder at your job (in a scenario where there aren't incentives for additional work) actually makes it harder to improve your value as a worker.
I see your point but don’t agree.
Sure. If you spend your time at work doing something menial that anyone can do, you aren’t adding value.
But how about you spend your time learning your boss’s job? And his boss’s job?
Learn the structure. Make friends with staff in other departments. Learn how the organization makes money, or why it is losing money.
Be curious, not judgmental. That will take you places.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 2:56 pm to JudgeHolden
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The idea of a job for life died with us.
You should have just worked harder.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 2:56 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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Well I ain't working the docks or drawing a government check like you Roger.
Gossipy woman.
Lower class people tend to have to lie to make a point.
If you cannot succeed today, you're not capable of ever succeeding, or you have a major cognitive issue (which might explain your affinity for communism.)
Posted on 8/20/22 at 2:58 pm to JudgeHolden
quote:I love this drop as if those two concepts correlate with the rate to which housing prices have increased relative to income.
The APR on a house was 18% with a 20% down payment, nonnegotiable.
Every single one of you boomers would take that situation if housing cost relative to income was the same now as it was then.
Give me the 1980s or even the 1990s and I’ll gladly take your 18% APR with 20% down.
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 2:59 pm to JudgeHolden
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Prior generations had struggles equal to yours.
You really didn't though. That's the thing about widening gaps and wage stagnation and inflation. It gets exponentially worse over time and not better.
So yes, your generation had it better simply by being born when you were. From a pure numbers standpoint.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 3:01 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Lower class people tend to have to lie to make a point.
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which might explain your affinity for communism
How to own yourself in one easy post.
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