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Question to people with great singing voices, were you neglected as a child?
Posted on 1/19/21 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 1/19/21 at 1:25 pm
Been reading about newborns and development, and saw a little blurb about crying and screaming and short term effects on vocal cords.
Of course I was high when I was reading this, so I went into the "woah dude" analysis, and thought. "Musicians are always f***** up with drug and alcohol problems, what if the drug and alcohol problems are due to parental neglect, and they became musicians because of how their vocal cords developed from screaming and crying their entire childhoods".
So I decided to come to the OT to see If I can get any support for the epiphany.
Of course I was high when I was reading this, so I went into the "woah dude" analysis, and thought. "Musicians are always f***** up with drug and alcohol problems, what if the drug and alcohol problems are due to parental neglect, and they became musicians because of how their vocal cords developed from screaming and crying their entire childhoods".
So I decided to come to the OT to see If I can get any support for the epiphany.
Posted on 1/19/21 at 1:29 pm to Kujo
My sister always said I was the worst singer she ever heard, I was not neglected.
Posted on 1/19/21 at 1:31 pm to The Torch
The stereotype of musicians are they are typically from poor families right?
It seems that musicians would more likely come from wealthy families, as they don't have to work. Like liberal arts majors, and can focus on non-income producing hobbies.
but I'm also thinking about modern music not opera and s*** like that
It seems that musicians would more likely come from wealthy families, as they don't have to work. Like liberal arts majors, and can focus on non-income producing hobbies.
but I'm also thinking about modern music not opera and s*** like that
This post was edited on 1/19/21 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 1/19/21 at 1:37 pm to Kujo
Depression is a common trait in artists be it music, comedy, painting, etc. not sure why
Posted on 1/19/21 at 1:44 pm to Kujo
If you're talking strictly vocal talent, then it's like most things, it's inherited.
Posted on 1/19/21 at 1:44 pm to Kujo
My middle child is an opera singer. As a middle child, he probably had to work harder to get our attention and we did not rush to him just because he was crying in his crib, etc....
Posted on 1/19/21 at 1:51 pm to Kujo
I think you might be higher than anyone has ever been.
Posted on 1/19/21 at 1:53 pm to Kujo
I actually knew a girl who could sing but was neglected as a child
Posted on 1/19/21 at 1:53 pm to The Mick
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Depression is a common trait in artists be it music, comedy, painting, etc. not sure why
As a depressed person, I'll give a bit of perspective from my own struggles.
I have a wife, kids, great job, respectable home, kids make straight As, I have lots of friends who treat me as family, ad an actual family who may not be easy, but I never doubt their love for me.
I don't ever remember considering myself "happy" ever. This extends as far back as my childhood memories allow.
Clinical ongoing severe depression, Generalized anxiety disorder, ADD & insomnia. I got handed a great genetic hand, right? I have 3 cousins who committed suicide. I've put the gun down myself a few times. I'm compulsive, a procrastinator, neurotic, quick tempered, and prone to telling people where they can stick it. I work on all these issues every day.
However, I have been told:
I am a good musician, friend, husband, father, writer, cook, and I've been told I am quite funny. Now my brain does not allow me to agree with them, but I try to take those compliments as true and work with them.
That being said, I never feel more alive or vital than when I do when sitting behind a drum kit or hovering over a stove preparing a meal for people.
Music especially brings catharsis the likes of which I have not found elsewhere in life. Cooking is a close second.
I believe it comes from the desire to make others happy, given the fact that I cannot be happy. I get satisfaction from these activities. They are outward signs that maybe, just maybe, I have worth and can contribute. If I can make someone else smile, it briefly quiets the self loathing embedded in my brain that I know will never leave, and lets my true self break through and feel good about me, by helping someone else feel good.
ETA: lol some sad excuse for a human downvoted this. Can't outwardly disagree and have a discussion, pussy?
This post was edited on 1/19/21 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 1/19/21 at 2:20 pm to ShoeBang
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I'm compulsive, a procrastinator, neurotic, quick tempered, and prone to telling people where they can stick it. I work on all these issues every day.
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lol some sad excuse for a human downvoted this. Can't outwardly disagree and have a discussion, pussy?
Yeah. Work harder.
Posted on 1/19/21 at 2:26 pm to MrSpock
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Yeah. Work harder.
warranted in this case, even for a better adjust person than me.
frick off. I do respect the message though.
Posted on 1/19/21 at 2:29 pm to Kujo
Posts like this are why we can’t get weed legalized everywhere. You sound stupid. And you’re even stupider when you’re stoned apparently.
Posted on 1/19/21 at 2:31 pm to Kujo
Not so much a great singer, but I do like to yodel in the canyon.
Posted on 1/19/21 at 2:32 pm to Kujo
I have an astonishing range... And I'm tone deaf.
Kind of fricked up
Kind of fricked up
Posted on 1/19/21 at 2:32 pm to Kujo
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Kujo
early front runner for most retarded thread starter of the year
Posted on 1/19/21 at 3:00 pm to Kujo
Nah. I had a happy childhood.
I use to mimic and poke fun at friends doing impressions when I was young. As I grew older and discovered what music was I used the same technique for singing. Whereas, I myself am not a great singer of original music, but I can sing a lot of songs exactly how it was sung originally in tone, cadence, etc.
A good way to explain it would be a Brooks and Dunn song. I sing each guys respective part the way they each sing and switch back and forth throughout the song.
I use to mimic and poke fun at friends doing impressions when I was young. As I grew older and discovered what music was I used the same technique for singing. Whereas, I myself am not a great singer of original music, but I can sing a lot of songs exactly how it was sung originally in tone, cadence, etc.
A good way to explain it would be a Brooks and Dunn song. I sing each guys respective part the way they each sing and switch back and forth throughout the song.
Posted on 1/19/21 at 3:01 pm to Kujo
Delete...I didn't read the whole comment before posting.
This post was edited on 1/19/21 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 1/19/21 at 3:10 pm to Kujo
I don’t believe lots of screaming improves your singing voice.
Posted on 1/19/21 at 3:29 pm to TheHarahanian
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I don’t believe lots of screaming improves your singing voice
It's just a hypothesis based on a common correlation between emotional issues and musical performers.
I see it as the cocoon effect, the butterfly must struggle to get out of the cocoon to gain enough strength to be able to fly.
So similarly, crying for hours at a time for attention may have strengthened the vocal cords. Again just a "whoa dude" Epiphany.
And of course it's not a black and white cause/effect. I don't think that every kid who's abused is a great singer, I'm just pondering why there may be a correlation.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 9:42 am to Kujo
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It's just a hypothesis based on a common correlation between emotional issues and musical performers.
Emotional issues don't start when you are in la-la land from age 0-10ish
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