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re: Question for OT military veterans
Posted on 7/11/21 at 9:31 pm to SaintlyTiger88
Posted on 7/11/21 at 9:31 pm to SaintlyTiger88
My church honors the vets during it's 4th of July celebration every year. Members who served carry flags into the church to their branch's music, while people who served in that branch stand. There are tons of Air Force people that were ROTC at Tech.
Go to the 10:50 mark of the YouTube video to see the veterans.
The National Anthem is at 8:40, right after the Pledge of Allegiance. The procession of vets starts around 10:50. It gets me every time. I know all of those old folks pretty well, and have seen a lot of their pictures from their military days.
One of our most prominent Temple members was on McArthur's staff that put together plans for the invasion of Japan. He taught Engineering, and was eventually an acting Dean and a long-time VP at Tech. Was also a state representative.
He hasn't marched with a flag in a few years, but this year was the first time he wasn't there to at least stand. He passed away during the COVID lock down. His name was Virgil Orr.
I met he and his wife Myrtis while working out in the Temple Baptist Church gym. I had no idea who the nice old people I met were until I told my mom I met them. You mean Dr. Orr, my mom said, then told me a little about him. He and his wife were some of the nicest people I've ever known.
Here's Dr. Or''s obituary from the Monroe News Star
Go to the 10:50 mark of the YouTube video to see the veterans.
The National Anthem is at 8:40, right after the Pledge of Allegiance. The procession of vets starts around 10:50. It gets me every time. I know all of those old folks pretty well, and have seen a lot of their pictures from their military days.
One of our most prominent Temple members was on McArthur's staff that put together plans for the invasion of Japan. He taught Engineering, and was eventually an acting Dean and a long-time VP at Tech. Was also a state representative.
He hasn't marched with a flag in a few years, but this year was the first time he wasn't there to at least stand. He passed away during the COVID lock down. His name was Virgil Orr.
I met he and his wife Myrtis while working out in the Temple Baptist Church gym. I had no idea who the nice old people I met were until I told my mom I met them. You mean Dr. Orr, my mom said, then told me a little about him. He and his wife were some of the nicest people I've ever known.
Here's Dr. Or''s obituary from the Monroe News Star
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Posted on 7/11/21 at 9:36 pm to SaintlyTiger88
If you tell me thank you I will reply with a your welcome. My daughter is active duty right now and I try to thank members. I also try to pay for lunch for active duty and for police officers when I get the chance
I also don't beg for discounts like some vets do
I also don't beg for discounts like some vets do
This post was edited on 7/11/21 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 7/11/21 at 10:01 pm to SaintlyTiger88
I dont wear anything that identifies me as a vet. About the only time I hear a thank you is at a lowes or home depot when I use a vet discount.
Purchased a gun recently and used a texas ltc for the id. The id has veteran marked on the front.Some nerdy kid doing the paperwork was a bit over the top on the tyfys. I found it a bit embarrassing.
Purchased a gun recently and used a texas ltc for the id. The id has veteran marked on the front.Some nerdy kid doing the paperwork was a bit over the top on the tyfys. I found it a bit embarrassing.
Posted on 7/11/21 at 10:28 pm to SaintlyTiger88
No modern military folks are "serving", they are "working".
Posted on 7/11/21 at 11:00 pm to SaintlyTiger88
I volunteered to serve.
Posted on 7/11/21 at 11:08 pm to Jim Rockford
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I have such reverence for the men who have faced much tougher battles than I’ve gone through.
If somebody is trying to kill you it's a tough fight. You don't have to downplay it.
I think a lot of vets feel that way, at least I do. I was in Panama and Iraq and my combat can be logged in hours not days or months. The WW and Vietnam vets saw more fighting in a day than I saw in my career. This is one of the main reasons why TYFYS makes me uneasy. I am concerned the person saying it has some vision of me at the Somme, Normandy, or some numbered hill in Vietnam those vets deserve TYFYS, and getting the same humbles me to the point of feeling like I am stealing valor.
Posted on 7/11/21 at 11:13 pm to Obtuse1
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I think a lot of vets feel that way, at least I do. I was in Panama and Iraq and my combat can be logged in hours not days or months. The WW and Vietnam vets saw more fighting in a day than I saw in my career. This is one of the main reasons why TYFYS makes me uneasy. I am concerned the person saying it has some vision of me at the Somme, Normandy, or some numbered hill in Vietnam those vets deserve TYFYS, and getting the same humbles me to the point of feeling like I am stealing valor.
I;m thinking of those kids kicking down doors in Fallujah. They don't need to take a back seat to anybody. Just one example. There are others.
Posted on 7/11/21 at 11:24 pm to Jim Rockford
Back in 2009 when I was flying into DFW from Rammstein for leave while deployed to Afghanistan, I was wearing multi-cam and a few people were intrigued from the standpoint that they thought ACU’s were phased out, so that started a few conversations and TYFYS type of situations.
I think a lot of people out of curiosity are intrigued by the military and what life is like for military personnel, since it is night and day from the civilian sector.. I would have entertained a conversation with anyone who cared to listen.
I think a lot of people out of curiosity are intrigued by the military and what life is like for military personnel, since it is night and day from the civilian sector.. I would have entertained a conversation with anyone who cared to listen.
This post was edited on 7/11/21 at 11:35 pm
Posted on 7/11/21 at 11:29 pm to Breauxsif
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I think a lot of people out of curiosity are intrigued by the military and what life is like for military personnel,
As recently as a generation ago most people had military experience themselves, or had family members or close friends who did. It's a rare exception now. The benign result is a lot of people are curious. There are other more negative sociopolitical implications, which books have been written about.
This post was edited on 7/11/21 at 11:31 pm
Posted on 7/11/21 at 11:33 pm to armsdealer
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No modern military folks are "serving", they are "working".
Leave the air and space forces outta this thread
Posted on 7/11/21 at 11:41 pm to SaintlyTiger88
I don't care either way, it's a nice gesture but in no way validates my service to me in my own head. I am not a fan of the pat your self on the back vet who has to get special license plates and ask for discounts. Those people suck.
Posted on 7/11/21 at 11:42 pm to SaintlyTiger88
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Do you like being thanked for your service or would you rather not be thanked?
I reply with a hearty "You're welcome, citizen" while snapping off a salute.
Posted on 7/11/21 at 11:42 pm to SaintlyTiger88
It makes me feel a bit uncomfortable when folks say it. I usually don’t go for veterans discounts or anything like that. I did my time, enjoyed my service and was glad to do it, no thanks necessary.
Posted on 7/11/21 at 11:48 pm to eitek1
G. Gordon Liddy made a point of this when a veteran called his radio show. Don't know if he started it but that's where I heard it first.
Posted on 7/12/21 at 12:32 am to eitek1
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I usually don’t go for veterans discounts or anything like that. I did my time, enjoyed my service and was glad to do it, no thanks necessary.
Me neither. Back in 2002 I volunteered. OIF and OEF were about to and were popping off. I was an immature Soph at LSU that wasn’t really into school. Ten years later I can thank the Army for giving me the intangibles that can be used today.
Posted on 7/12/21 at 12:36 am to eitek1
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I usually don’t go for veterans discounts
I do at Lowes and HD... bc I spend so much gd money there.
Had an old LT I served with go around to a bunch of places that were doing free meals on Veterans Day one year and document it on FB. I think he had 10 or 12 full meals before he finally gave up.
Posted on 7/12/21 at 12:57 am to SaintlyTiger88
It makes me uncomfortable. I didn't fight in any wars or anything, so they don't need to thank me. I appreciate the gesture though. Also, I never stand up at events when they are recognizing veterans. I don't because I didn't do anything so no need to recognize me and feel if I stood up, it would just be for attention.
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:27 am to SaintlyTiger88
I used to appreciate it when it happened, but it became a little annoying when the practice became this cultural thing that you were expected to do.
And now? I really don't want it at all. The military I was in is dead, and I want no affiliation with the shambling wreck that has replaced it.
And now? I really don't want it at all. The military I was in is dead, and I want no affiliation with the shambling wreck that has replaced it.
Posted on 7/12/21 at 5:22 am to SaintlyTiger88
You say "thanks, I appreciate that." Then move on without acting like a douchebag. I never understood why this is such a big dilemma. Someone went out of their way to acknowledge your service. Try not to be a self-important a-hole for two seconds.
Posted on 7/12/21 at 6:24 am to SaintlyTiger88
While I personally don’t care to hear it, I view it as it not being for me. The person saying it is doing it so I know they’re grateful. If that makes their day a little better than I can smile and say thank you. No skin off my back.
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