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re: Question for OT mechanics re: F150 **Update**

Posted on 1/14/19 at 7:41 am to
Posted by rcrdav24
Member since Jul 2015
87 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 7:41 am to
Replaced the coils and plugs in the wires 2007 Expedition with the 5.4 Triton and only had 2 plugs break. Bought the extraction tool ($120) and took about 3 hrs to do in the front yard. Total cost was about $400.
Posted by DevilDagNS
Member since Dec 2017
3016 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 7:43 am to
Why do you think it is the ignition coil?

Also, your wife likely possesses the requisite level of mechanical skill to do this.

This post was edited on 1/14/19 at 7:51 am
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66984 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 7:48 am to
Thanks! This is actually on an older Accord. Since, I've never changed the plugs, I may just go ahead and change all 4 of them. Maybe all the coils , too.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
39216 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 10:55 am to
Possibly so. I would change out the coils and plugs. You can get a set at a good price on ebay. Worst case scenario is that you replaced something that you needed to take care of anyways
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
15245 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 11:15 am to
quote:


If you have the 5.4L Triton it's a nightmare to change plugs yourself and a shop will quote you probably 1k'ish


Did my 02. Didn't break any. Had 102k miles.

I ran two cans of seafoam in a tank of fuel. The night before I sprayed Kroil oil down each cylinder hole. Next day I put coils back on to crank warmed motor up. Hurry And killed it then ran around with a socket and extension and broke the plugs loose.

They all came out fine.

OP I was buying oem coils/boots off Amazon forike $36 a piece. Kept on in my tool box.

Get some dialectric grease too.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45189 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 3:59 pm to
You can get the set of coils on ebay real cheap and they work fine. Just plug in your make/model etc and get the ones that fit.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45189 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

Did my 02. Didn't break any. Had 102k miles.

I ran two cans of seafoam in a tank of fuel. The night before I sprayed Kroil oil down each cylinder hole. Next day I put coils back on to crank warmed motor up. Hurry And killed it then ran around with a socket and extension and broke the plugs loose.

They all came out fine.
Good work. My problem wasnt breaking the plugs off. It was trying to get to them. The plug wells (or whatever you call the thing you stick the plug and coil down into), were at the back of the engine and slanted towards the firewall on about a 30% angle or so. Mine was a 2004 Expecition with the 5.4 triton. Nightmare. You had to pretty much climb on top the engine to reach it and then the angle made it almost impossible to deal with, really needed some kind of hinged socket wrench so you could work the angles. I think I sold the car as-is after changing a couple of them.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 5:09 pm to
Go to Autozone and get them to hook up their code reader and it will tell you which coil pack is bad if any or if the problem is something else. They will do that for free
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85479 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 5:16 pm to
quote:

This thread is a reminder to me that when my Tundra gets about 8 years old, it’ll just be broken in
Posted by Shepherd
Member since Nov 2009
3099 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 7:27 pm to
quote:

My truck is “sputtering” between 45-60mph and have been told the issue is most likely coils and/or plugs.

This seem right to yall? Truck runs just fine otherwise.



Don’t rule out it being a catalytic converter or even a fuel issue (pump or filter).
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
141060 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 8:24 pm to
That's not funny, well maybe a little.

I didn't buy the Tundra because I couldn't justify the additional cost over the cost of the F150. So far so good, but my warranty ends next month, so I'm going to start getting nervous.
Posted by King of New Orleans
In front of The Hungry Tiger
Member since Jul 2011
11116 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 9:11 pm to
quote:

Don’t rule out it being a catalytic converter or even a fuel issue (pump or filter).


How does this compare pricewise to replacing coils and/or plugs?
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85479 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 9:43 pm to
Yeah, I like my Tundra but the F150 is all around better. Tundra might be more reliable but it’ll be a while before we know that since the F150 is still pretty new. F150 is superior in every other category.
Posted by lsufan112001
sportsmans paradise
Member since Oct 2006
11221 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 9:49 pm to

How does this compare pricewise to replacing coils and/or plugs?

Is there a check engine light on????

A fuel filter is cheap. May be a little bit of a pain to replace. Especially if within the gas tank.
Posted by King of New Orleans
In front of The Hungry Tiger
Member since Jul 2011
11116 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 11:45 pm to
Check engine light comes on sporadically. Doesn’t stay on. Comes on and flashes a bit then goes off.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15814 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 12:03 am to
quote:

Check engine light comes on sporadically.


It will cost you nothing to stop at the auto parts store and see if a check engine code is stored. Otherwise based on the posts in this thread. Replace all coil packs, spark plugs, catalytic converter, fuel filter, gas cap, fetzer valve, and blinker fluid and you should be good as new.
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3884 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 7:00 am to
quote:

Comes on and flashes a bit then goes off.


Quit being cheap and get this fixed before you kill your engine. Flashing engine light usually reduces your power and is the manufacturers recommendation to pull over and get towed before you really break something. If your engine has the cylinder shutoff that might be why it is only intermittent.

Now this isn't -always- the case. But it could be. Plus if you've got no fire and are still running the car you'll have flooded cats soon and then you'll have to replace the converter (expensive) and whatever was initially wrong.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74865 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 8:22 am to
I said earlier flashing was bad coils. In a Ford if your CEL flashes, it's going to be a misfire most times. The flashing CEL means urgent/stop driving. Unlike a constant CEL which is often bad O2 or other sensors.


Posted by King of New Orleans
In front of The Hungry Tiger
Member since Jul 2011
11116 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 10:35 pm to
**Update**

Got it worked on today. Ended up replacing spark plugs and two ignition coils. Runs much better. Still a tad bit of sputtering but it’s minor at its worst. If yesterday was a 1, 10 being the best, it’s running at an 8.5-9 now.

It’s been hard to track down 100% of the problem because the check engine light doesn’t come on much. Only when I was gunning it to 65-70mph. Did it when I left the shop today to test it and no CEL came on.

Will watch it a few days to see if anything changes. Curious to see if I might need another coil switched out. Very happy with today’s result though.
This post was edited on 1/18/19 at 10:39 pm
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19941 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 10:52 pm to
quote:

Did my 02. Didn't break any. Had 102k miles.


Yours is a 2-valve version, not the same issue as the 3-valve version. Yours will spit out sparkplugs though, I Time-serted all 8 of my plugs years ago so I have fully threaded heads vs the 7 threads you have.
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