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Question about the COVID mRNA vaccine.
Posted on 3/18/21 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 3/18/21 at 12:19 pm
Mature mRNA (from DNA) in our cell cytoplasm takes amino acids and arranges them into a proteins. Those proteins are building blocks of who we are as human animals.
If the mRNA COVID vaccine is making proteins to mimic the protein structure of COVID why would our immune system see COVID as a foreign body?
Seems counter intuitive.
If the mRNA COVID vaccine is making proteins to mimic the protein structure of COVID why would our immune system see COVID as a foreign body?
Seems counter intuitive.
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Posted on 3/18/21 at 12:20 pm to GumboPot
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Mature mRNA (from DNA) in our cell cytoplasm takes amino acids and arranges them into a proteins
99.99% of OTers won't get past this sentence
Posted on 3/18/21 at 12:22 pm to GumboPot
All I know is I'm really enjoying this 5G microchip.
Posted on 3/18/21 at 12:23 pm to GumboPot
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Seems counter intuitive.
aw shite, now we gotta throw all this research out
Posted on 3/18/21 at 12:23 pm to GumboPot
What, no "Sir this is a Wendy's" replies yet?
Posted on 3/18/21 at 12:24 pm to GumboPot
The mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell
Posted on 3/18/21 at 12:24 pm to GumboPot
I'm typing this response with all 17 of my fingers.
Posted on 3/18/21 at 12:25 pm to Jim Rockford
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All I know is I'm really enjoying this 5G microchip.
Are you getting better cell reception with that?
Posted on 3/18/21 at 12:25 pm to GumboPot
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If the mRNA COVID vaccine is making proteins to mimic the protein structure of COVID why would our immune system see COVID as a foreign body?
Posted on 3/18/21 at 12:27 pm to GumboPot
I've accepted that the technology does what it says it does, but it's a good question for people who don't fully understand how it works (which is almost everyone.)
Of course posting this on the OT will only yield sarcasm from people who also don't know the answer but see any attempt to educate yourself as an affront to the treatment itself.
Of course posting this on the OT will only yield sarcasm from people who also don't know the answer but see any attempt to educate yourself as an affront to the treatment itself.
Posted on 3/18/21 at 12:28 pm to GumboPot
Because the mRNA is coding a protein that is foreign to the human body...the spike protein of the coronavirus.
ETA: from the cdc:
ETA: from the cdc:
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mRNA vaccines contain material from the virus that causes COVID-19 that gives our cells instructions for how to make a harmless protein that is unique to the virus. After our cells make copies of the protein, they destroy the genetic material from the vaccine. Our bodies recognize that the protein should not be there and build T-lymphocytes and B-lymphocytes that will remember how to fight the virus that causes COVID-19 if we are infected in the future.
This post was edited on 3/18/21 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 3/18/21 at 12:28 pm to HempHead
God, I miss Farley.
Posted on 3/18/21 at 12:28 pm to GumboPot
Because the S protein is foreign to our body even though the amino acids that make it are used in all sorts of protein structures in our bodies too.
Posted on 3/18/21 at 12:34 pm to GumboPot
cdc says
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COVID-19 mRNA vaccines give instructions for our cells to make a harmless piece of what is called the “spike protein.” The spike protein is found on the surface of the virus that causes COVID-19.
COVID-19 mRNA vaccines are given in the upper arm muscle. Once the instructions (mRNA) are inside the immune cells, the cells use them to make the protein piece. After the protein piece is made, the cell breaks down the instructions and gets rid of them.
Next, the cell displays the protein piece on its surface. Our immune systems recognize that the protein doesn’t belong there and begin building an immune response and making antibodies, like what happens in natural infection against COVID-19.
At the end of the process, our bodies have learned how to protect against future infection. "
Posted on 3/18/21 at 12:34 pm to medtiger
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Because the mRNA is coding a protein that is foreign to the human body...the spike protein of the coronavirus.
Wouldn’t your immune system just see the vaccine mRNA as part of body and ignore it as self and ignore any proteins assembled from it?
Also, how does the vaccine mRNA get into the cell before its consumed by your immune system? Afterall it’s a foreign agent.
Posted on 3/18/21 at 12:35 pm to Lawyered
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mitochondria
I think I had a case of that in high-school
Posted on 3/18/21 at 12:36 pm to GumboPot
Did you think you would actually get an intelligent answer here?
Posted on 3/18/21 at 12:41 pm to medtiger
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quote:
mRNA vaccines contain material from the virus that causes COVID-19 that gives our cells instructions for how to make a harmless protein that is unique to the virus. After our cells make copies of the protein, they destroy the genetic material from the vaccine. Our bodies recognize that the protein should not be there and build T-lymphocytes and B-lymphocytes that will remember how to fight the virus that causes COVID-19 if we are infected in the future
This is my issue. I'm not an anti-vaccer by any means, but I'm young and not at risk of complications from the virus. Why does this harmless protein not induce serious illness like the virus can. How are we sure that it doesn't lead to underlying or latent conditions which have not been yet observed because their latency is longer than 7 months or however long this vaccine has existed? Is there any concern that the existence of this protein could lead to future effects that are as of now unknown?
This post was edited on 3/18/21 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 3/18/21 at 12:44 pm to GumboPot
Posted on 3/18/21 at 12:44 pm to GumboPot
The immune system doesn't see the mRNA. It is carried in a lipophillic "envelope" that is able to pass through the cells' lipid based membrane.
Think of it like this...all of the neighborhoods going up in SE Louisiana have either a French country style or Acadian style made of wood, bricks and stucco. Suddenly someone uses those same building materials to build a Hanok style house in the neighborhood. Yoyre going to recognize it as different, correct?
Think of it like this...all of the neighborhoods going up in SE Louisiana have either a French country style or Acadian style made of wood, bricks and stucco. Suddenly someone uses those same building materials to build a Hanok style house in the neighborhood. Yoyre going to recognize it as different, correct?
This post was edited on 3/18/21 at 12:51 pm
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