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Posted on 2/5/24 at 11:18 am to
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
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Posted on 2/5/24 at 11:18 am to
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With a Tesla just go home and forget it.


Hows that electric bill dumbass
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
28091 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 11:18 am to
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My Y long range is 3 years old, 60k miles, and still has roughly 96% capacity even when it was driving in freeing temps of Boston. I’d say it’s doing well



I'm not sure about the statistics of other EVs, but Tesla batteries are incredibly durable and efficient. People can't set aside their biases when it comes to this subject. The truth gets lost in conversation of false gotchas.
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
38224 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 11:19 am to
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Whatever my X7 has yes

wonder how much youd spend in electricity charging a similar vehicle
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
6293 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 11:19 am to
Bro if I was rich I’d have a X not a Y
Posted by biscuitsngravy
Tejas, north America
Member since Jan 2011
3775 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 11:19 am to
exxon app...
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
11168 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 11:20 am to
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You know this isn't a thing, right?
Yes and No. Tesla does have best in class performance against battery degradation (to this point),but many of the current EV's see 5% degradation every year at the moment. Depending on the Model and charge and discharge patterns Tesla's see a 1-3% degradation for the first 7 years, but after that they fall off pretty hard. While the data suggests you should absolutely be able to get many years from a Tesla before battery replacement would be required it is an expensive job, and one that depending on luck and how much degradation you can tolerate you would need to tackle if the EV is a long term purchase and not just a 'look at me' that you trade in at the end of your lease.

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Tesla batteries last several hundred thousand miles
Musk hyperbole, and the tests that even show more than 80% battery charge after 200k miles has notations saying they removed the data for any Tesla's that required the battery to be changed in that time, which kind of inflates the numbers.

While battery replacement isn't some glaring thing that is required like changing a 12V on an ICE, it is still a large cost that an owner would need to have in mind when purchasing for long term, or a used EV. One would also need to figure based on commute how much degradation could be taken before the EV becomes a hassle and they would need to either replace or get another vehicle. In comparison the last vehicle I had got ~570m per tank when I first bought it. When I traded it in with 190k miles it was still getting ~560m per tank (both numbers assumed just commute and not hauling). So in almost 200k miles it lost less than 2% of it's driveable range. The best data at present suggests a Tesla would optimistically lose 18-20% in the same frame.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/5/24 at 11:21 am to
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Hows that electric bill dumbass



I've had my Tesla for over a year now, and my electric bill has increased on average about $30/month. I was spending $400/month on my Odyssey, and my Cayenne I spend between $500-600/month.


These gotchas are filled with no basis, only bias. Now in certain parts of the country where energy prices are incredibly high I suspect the cost to charge is significantly greater. On the other hand petrol costs are greater as well. I can only speak of here in Louisiana for my experiences.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31388 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 11:21 am to
You pay to fill up an EV too. A lot if it is at the Tesla chargers.
Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
4487 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 11:22 am to
We found the village idiot. Go get your Ev, report back when your stranded at a “charging station”
Or have to divert your plans to “find a charging station” or when your tires are wearing out exponentially. Or when you have to replace the battery. Or when they raise the road taxes because EV’s cause major road damage due to excess weight. Or better yet, when they take total control and have cyber banking & then engage their ultimate plan to restrict cars from certain paths and can dictate where and when you can go. Let’s not even get into the long term environmental issues of the batteries and landfills.

EV endorsers are possibly the most ignorant folks out there. Right there with libtards.

ONLY REASON one could consider an EV is if you live in a densely populated city and ONLY COMMUTE every day and don’t have a life outside of that. Road trippers would be insane to purchase one!

Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
6293 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 11:22 am to
My Y takes roughly $11 to charge to 80% which is ~240 miles
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
6293 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 11:23 am to
I road trip mine from Boston to NYC or Montreal frequently and have no issues except trip is maybe like 10% longer
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
15256 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 11:23 am to
want to go on a long distance road trip and see who gets there first?
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 2/5/24 at 11:23 am to
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
13443 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 11:24 am to
how do you like standing forever in the pouring rain or the freezing cold with no canopy or awning over the charging station?
Posted by Beef Tips
Member since Jan 2013
2884 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 11:25 am to
Guys, should we tell the OP about Corollas and Civics?
Posted by EST
Investigating
Member since Oct 2003
18219 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 11:25 am to
It takes just a few minutes and requires almost zero physical exertion. How lazy are you?
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
6293 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 11:25 am to
Only an issue during road trips, else I go inside the garage and charge which is 98% of the time.

How’s driving around to find a gas station and interacting with undesirable people smoking cigs near you?
Posted by SUB
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/5/24 at 11:26 am to
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That's a decent guarantee but I'd wager most people drive their car up over 100k and having to drop $30k into a 5+ year old car would be tough to swa


Do Tesla batteries typically fail after 100k or 150k miles, or just lose some capacity? The model S has been around for over 10 years, and I haven't heard about anybody doing a full battery replacement. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but if it was a regular thing occurring, you'd think that you'd be hearing more about it, no? Also, how many people here keep a car over 10 years? I do myself, but I'd guess that the answer is No for most here.

There are plenty of other things to complain about with EVs. Battery life seems irrelevant if you still have a useful battery after 150K-200K miles.
This post was edited on 2/5/24 at 11:28 am
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170606 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 11:27 am to
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Until your battery goes kaput and you need to spend $28k on a new one.

Yeh man! Grrrrrreat investment

Don't most of these vehicles come with battery warranties?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112480 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 11:27 am to
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With a Tesla just go home and forget it.


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