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re: PSA - Wipers ON, Lights ON - Hazards OFF

Posted on 6/18/18 at 11:53 am to
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9277 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 11:53 am to
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Running up on a car going much slower than everyone else and having to put on the brakes in a driving rainstorm is very dangerours


This is called over-driving your visibility and the bigger safety issue in this scenario is you. Your stopping distance on wet pavement at 70 mph, with a one second reaction time, is about 700 feet. If you can’t see 300 feet, you shouldn’t be driving nearly this fast.

FWIW, I don’t drive with my hazards on. I do, however, slow down during torrential rain.

I also see a lot of people talking about how folks in LA don’t know how to drive in the rain. While I think that’s generally true, it’s just as much due to people driving 70+ in <100 ft of visibility as it is due to people driving 30 in light showers. It’s easy to get complacent because we deal with it all the time, but we get summer thunderstorms that would shut down roads in many other parts of the country.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9277 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 11:55 am to
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Their taillights and brake lights are always bright, making it look like they're applying their brakes constantly.


This, and dump trucks with no working taillights at all, drive me insane. Also people who ride their brakes in traffic - it’s not the constant speeding up/slowing down that pisses me off, it’s the fact that I can never tell when they are about to actually stop.
Posted by 99DSTJ
K-Town
Member since Jun 2009
780 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 12:02 pm to
What is starting to happen is people assume the car with hazards on IS still moving. This becomes a very very dangerous scenario if you stopped on the side of the road or god forbid on an actual travel lane.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
15650 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 12:03 pm to
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my hazards are on so that the retard still driving 75 doesn’t run into the back of me.


How do people think that driving with hazards prevents this?
Posted by Adam4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
13760 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 12:06 pm to
People who don’t use their hazards in the rain are trashy.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
140905 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 12:07 pm to
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People who don’t use their hazards in the rain are driving legally.

FIFY
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45050 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 12:15 pm to
I have put my hazards on while driving maybe 5 times. Twice while following a ambulance the others were I was on the interstate and it was raining so hard you literally couldn’t see 30 feet in front you. Even then the only reason I did was because others were doing it and at the time it seemed like the smart thing to do.
Posted by Adam4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
13760 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 12:15 pm to
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FIFY



Legally Trashy
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 12:17 pm to
Yep and these idiots dont get it
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
7323 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 12:19 pm to
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the "auto" setting


False sense of security. A lot of drivers assume their lights are on because it's automatic in driving rain, but they're not. Take a second and turn your lights on in the rain. I bet half the people complaining about people's hazards on in the rain are riding without their lights on without realizing it. Lights on and hazards off.
Posted by statman34
Member since Feb 2011
2950 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 12:23 pm to
Before auto lights on was a thing a lot of people would only use what is called Parking lights (not direct beams) when it got to be dusk. It used to drive me nuts because why not put the lights all the way on? Are they conserving their actual headlights? I have noticed a sharp decrease in that but a big increase in the hazards thing. Also if it starts to rain people slam on their brakes and go 30 mph less immediately. To me that is more dangerous than maintaining your speed.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9277 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 12:49 pm to
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A lot of drivers assume their lights are on because it's automatic in driving rain, but they're not.


My headlights come on when I turn my wipers on (after 10 seconds or so) as they have in every vehicle I’ve owned with automatic headlights.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16525 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 12:52 pm to
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Ignorance


Stupidity would also have been an acceptable answer from you.
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
7323 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 1:03 pm to
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My headlights come on when I turn my wipers on (after 10 seconds or so) as they have in every vehicle I’ve owned with automatic headlights.


It's not all, but I saw way more 2015 and newer vehicles without lights on this weekend on 90 when the bottom fell out than I did hazards. Maybe the idiots just turned auto off for some reason and didn't realize it, but I do think auto light functions have conditioned many drivers to not even think about making sure their lights are on. It's like proximity sensors when reversing. I had someone back into me recently because "there wasn't a beep" even though the idiot admitted he saw how close he was on his fricking backup camera.

I love modern amenities on vehicles and the ease of use, but a lot of times you don't realize there is a malfunction with them until $damage$ is done.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24118 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 1:05 pm to
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PSA - Wipers ON, Lights ON - Hazards OFF



This thread happens about once every 3 months. Huge soap box for some posters and by page 3 someone provides rationale as to when hazard make sense and the thread blows up.

Rinse, wash, repeat.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16525 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 1:11 pm to
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Big storm is one of the few times i'll ignore the left lane is for passing rule. Sometimes you gotta get out from behind a cars spray to be able to see when its bad.



There's this great product called Rain-X. I don't even have to use wipers at highway speeds when it's raining.
Posted by yessir
Here
Member since Apr 2008
6583 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 1:35 pm to
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Rinse, wash, repeat.


Better this than some of the other crap that gets recycled on the OT. At least this may educate some ignorant party...
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 1:49 pm to
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This is called over-driving your visibility and the bigger safety issue in this scenario is you. Your stopping distance on wet pavement at 70 mph, with a one second reaction time, is about 700 feet. If you can’t see 300 feet, you shouldn’t be driving nearly this fast.

FWIW, I don’t drive with my hazards on. I do, however, slow down during torrential rain.

I also see a lot of people talking about how folks in LA don’t know how to drive in the rain. While I think that’s generally true, it’s just as much due to people driving 70+ in <100 ft of visibility as it is due to people driving 30 in light showers. It’s easy to get complacent because we deal with it all the time, but we get summer thunderstorms that would shut down roads in many other parts of the country.


I never said 70 mph or any specific speed outside of the speed of traffic, which slows down during torrential rain.

I know its fun to play gotcha online and all but the person going well below the speed of traffic is definitely the one creating a dangerous situation as opposed to all other drivers on the road going the speed of traffic.

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