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re: PSA : Get your spare A/C capacitor before you need it

Posted on 8/14/17 at 1:04 pm to
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15818 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

Yeah does the power have to be shut off prior to removing and replacing?


Not really but you should have some type of burial insurance if you leave the power on
Posted by djangochained
Gardere
Member since Jul 2013
19185 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 1:09 pm to
How do I know which to purchase on Amazon?
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

Yes, but since the capacitor is - well - a capacitor, even this doesn't guarantee you won't be shocked.


Exactly, people should know to discharge the capacitor when they take it off and discharge the new one just to be safe.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
7274 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

Yes, but since the capacitor is - well - a capacitor, even this doesn't guarantee you won't be shocked.


After you turn off the power you can discharge any residual juice in the capacitor by touching the terminals with something metal. I usually rub a pair on insulated needle nose pliers around the capacitor.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48643 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

I had to same issue, but my set up doesn't have a capacitor. I had to call a tech who had to replace the entire motor.



Unless you are running a 3 phase unit, I have never seen an AC motor that didn't have a tart capacitor.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48643 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

After you turn off the power you can discharge any residual juice in the capacitor by touching the terminals with something metal. I usually rub a pair on insulated needle nose pliers around the capacitor.




I've seen people crap their pants and leave a bit of metal behind doing that. but it is the proper thing to do, or maybe a nail driven into the end of a 2x2.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 1:24 pm to
I just use a long screwdriver but that loud POP will get you even when you're expecting it.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
171149 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 1:27 pm to
and this is why it costs a hundred bucks to put a cheap part in. BUT usually other things are soon to go wrong.

Call an AC guy.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

Unless you are running a 3 phase unit, I have never seen an AC motor that didn't have a tart capacitor.


Blower fan uses a X13 motor which does not have a capacitor.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

The downside to this is that a blown capacitor is often a symptom of something larger. Perhaps your motor is going bad.


Have replaced many starter capacitors on AC units and other single phase motors, never did anything else fail afterward in a time frame that would indicate it might be related. Heat takes a toll on starter caps, and their life is finite. Even if it was a symptom of something more significant failing how would you troubleshoot that unless the cap is replaced and the unit is running again.
Posted by Neauxla_Tiger
Member since Feb 2015
2134 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

Yea keeping my house fully accessible for a thief to steal all of my shite sounds like a great idea


1. Install it on a window facing your backyard so nobody can tell you have one installed when driving by.

2. Just put a stick or some kind of locking mechanism between the sliding pane and the top of the frame that prevents the window from being lifted any further up. You can buy something like that cheap, or just look around your house for something that fits. Last time my AC went out I installed a window unit and just unscrewed the handle from a small broom and it fit perfectly in the gap to lock the window.

3. If somebody sneaks into your backyard, discovers the window unit, and manages to finesse their way around that lock... then they were probably going to break into your house no matter what.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

Blower fan uses a X13 motor which does not have a capacitor.


It has a internal programmable control module that determines motor startup direction, and other paramaters, the module can be replaced independently of the entire motor, but more expensive and difficult than a starter capacitor.
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
40232 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

Woke up this morning to a hot house. Went and checked a saw capacitor had been fried. About 30 minutes later AC was back up and running.

If you do not do it, keep a spare AC capacitor and a spare switch on hand. Two simple repairs that account for a lot of AC problems.

A/c guy came saturday morning for my "free" tune up. Naturally they say something needs repair and it is the capacitor. Quoted me $210 and I told him to frick off. How much is this part for a Trane system about 12 years old? IS this an easy repair I can make on my own?

eta: I see I can get one on amazon for cheap. Thanks for the heads up
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 2:14 pm
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
61811 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 2:14 pm to
Easy to do.

$20-$30 for one, buying locally.
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 2:14 pm
Posted by caliegeaux
Member since Aug 2004
12935 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 2:19 pm to
Good advice and thanks for the info.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48643 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

Blower fan uses a X13 motor which does not have a capacitor.




I think the X13 is an ECM design that (again, I think, not positive) is actually a DC motor with an controller that converts the AC (I'm guessing through pulse width modulation) to control the motor speed. That would make sense as to why no starting capacitor. Someone else on the board may have better details on how those work.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 3:57 pm to
Had to put a new motor on the fan Friday night in the rain. Just glad I could find one at 7pm
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
6042 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:07 pm to
quote:

I think the X13 is an ECM design that (again, I think, not positive) is actually a DC motor with an controller that converts the AC (I'm guessing through pulse width modulation) to control the motor speed.


Mostly true except an X13 (constant torque) maintains a "constant torque". Other types of ECM motors control speed. On a side note, I have about 100,000 capacitors right outside my office window....





Posted by X123F45
Dictated not Read
Member since Apr 2015
30040 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:14 pm to
quote:

Yea keeping my house fully accessible for a thief to steal all of my shite sounds like a great idea



It's a helluva lot easier to throw a shoulder into a door than knock a window unit out.
Posted by felps22
Youngsville
Member since Aug 2011
483 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:25 pm to
Allstyle?? lol
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