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re: Proud dads, at which point did you realize you are not a coach?

Posted on 9/9/19 at 5:53 am to
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
16649 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 5:53 am to
I offered to help coach our local kids (10-12) baseball team only because they were in desperate need. Mind you, I don’t know much about the fundamentals of baseball. Before I knew it, I was basically the head coach as other parents had too many obligations. Ok...no biggee, it’s all about getting kids out and having fun.

Then the games start, and all these parents who don’t have time to help out become very generous in telling me how much of an idiot I am (one actually waited by my truck after the first game to personally tell me).

My response is always, “Appreciate the advice, we need all the help we can get. Feel free to come help out with practices, etc). They never show up for that so in my mind, they can lick my arse.
Posted by rrboy
USA
Member since Jan 2005
5569 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 5:55 am to
After we won the league championship and they never asked me to coach the high school team
Posted by BigJake
Baton rouge
Member since Jan 2006
1535 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 6:11 am to
I’m an awesome coach.
Posted by Evil Little Thing
Member since Jul 2013
11622 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 6:12 am to
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This post was edited on 9/9/19 at 10:33 am
Posted by Barrister
Member since Jul 2012
5295 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 6:30 am to
Become a coach
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
26915 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 6:35 am to
I'll say this for organized sports and as a kid I played them all, pickup games on the schoolyard were always better.
Posted by weptiger
Georgia
Member since Feb 2007
11793 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 6:59 am to
Thankfully, we are done with rec, travel and high school sports programs. Yes, we had some great times and memories, but the incessant politicking by parents and poor coaching in many respects just beats you down.

Club teams are a mixed bag with some really good coaches and programs. However, they can be poorly run, extremely costly and the coaching isn’t always “better.” In my experience, some of the most incompetent and idiotic coaches were the supposed professionals on the travel and high school teams where it’s more about business and sustaining booster programs.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
24139 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 7:01 am to
You should’ve told him to meet you at sonic for post game treats
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102675 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 7:09 am to
My dad coached my fall league team when I was 8 yrs old. We went undefeated and was a blast.

I also had a little league coach who was a complete a-hole and borderline abusive. My dad ended up walking on the field and beat his arse
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
27275 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 7:19 am to
I coached Dixie Youth for 21 years. I've had former players sign pro contracts (none have made it to the show), play college baseball (one at Clemson now) and had multiple All State selections. Of those 21 years, I coached my own children for 4. Coaching your own child is difficult and it opens up parents to criticize if they feel you're playing favorites. In other words Daddy Ball.

I don't have anything against travel/club ball, however I will tell you that if you don't make Jaxson stay put in a few difficult situations, he will want to bolt the first time he encounters difficulty at the HS level. Then you find yourself rotating from public to private to public, all because when he was young he was taught that when things became tough, he could run to the next team where he could hopefully become a star.
This post was edited on 9/9/19 at 7:20 am
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
59172 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 7:35 am to
On my kids teams we always use Eugene’s dads. I don’t know how it works but there’s 2 of them. They are so bonded with the kids on the team it’s crazy. They even shower with them
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 7:46 am to
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Posted by PT24-7
Member since Jul 2013
4592 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 7:49 am to
What’s a club?
Posted by Dawgholio
Bugtussle
Member since Oct 2015
13047 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 7:52 am to
My son’s Jaxon and Kalex are All City 3rd team B division. I’m a damn good coach.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 7:57 am to
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Why do guys continue to do this shite when they are clearly ineffective?


I've learned that there are 3 different types of little league coaches, across all the sports my kids have played.

1. The dedicated volunteer that loves the sport and wants every kid to do well. This type is the most rare.

2. The volunteer that begrudgingly took on the coaching role, but really has little idea how to coach the sport. But they love the kids and everyone generally has a good time. This type was the most common.

3. The former high school meathead living vicariously through his/her son's/daughter's performance. The absolute worst, especially in my daughter's case with cheerleading. A very close second to #2 in frequency.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122154 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 8:08 am to
Be honest with yourself. How much baseball experience do you have? It seems 70% of the dads think they know more than everyone else.

People have shown me comments people have made when talking about youth baseball. Parents complaining about a coach and someone jumping in and saying "I forgot more baseball than he knows".

I think it would be a good idea to read some books on coaching youth baseball.
Posted by RedlandsTiger
Greenwell Springs, LA
Member since Jan 2008
3190 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 8:11 am to
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Why don’t you sack up and be the coach?


You know u suck?
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
73608 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 8:25 am to
I coached my son through youth football & baseball, usually as an assistant coach. In football I was the offensive line coach and in baseball I was usually an assistant working with the catchers although I had to head coach (I didn’t want to) a couple of years.

There’s a right & wrong way to approach coaching youth sports. The first rule is you’ve got to keep in mind the purpose of youth sports

1. Fun for the kids
2. Teach them how to play the sport
3. Teach them about teamwork, sportsmanship, and always giving full effort.

The best advice I can give to someone who’s getting into coaching youth sports is to partner with the local high school staff. I did this when I coached youth offensive line. I learned their coaching techniques and we even adopted simplified versions of their blocking schemes. My goal as a youth cos h wasn’t simply to win, instead I focused on giving the boys a good foundation on the fundamentals of the game. I didn’t want them to get to the next level and their school coaches to have to “unlearn” them of what they’d been taught at the youth level. And this approach paid off at the youth level in winning championships at that level. If you focus on teaching them solid fundamentals winning takes care of itself.
Posted by Dick Leverage
In The HizHouse
Member since Nov 2013
9000 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 8:29 am to
I loved coaching when I was in my 20s. I started when I was 19 as the OLine coach for my HS alma maters 8th grade team. Going into year 2, the head coach quit coaching a week before we started fall practice due to health issues. The varsity coach (my HS head coach )asked me to assume that responsibility. It was a big school in Ga’s highest classification. I did it for 12 years while I was single and young. I loved it. It was exciting and fun to lead a roster of over 80 kids year in and out. Won a lot of championships during those years.

After my first year as HC, I adopted a policy of no dads would be on my staff. My DC and assistants were all guys I played with who were either going to Kennesaw State or Southern Tech or were just good football players who went straight into the work force. By the time I decided it was time to “volunteer” my time to my wife and young kids instead of 8th grade football, the majority of my assistants were kids who I had coached in my first 2 seasons as HC and had already played college ball and came home to start working in Atlanta area. It was a blast. We practiced from 6:30-8:00 Mon-Thursday and played our games at 7:00 on Saturdays. Every night after practice most of us would stay and play a goofy punt, pass,kick obstacle course game for an hour or so. Most of us were all unburdened at the time of having kids.

Fast forward to now. I am 49 and my son is 13. I have a work schedule that does not allow me to commit the time to be a head coach.....of anything. I often don’t know when I might have to entertain customers at a Braves game or a concert, etc..until a few days before. In the fall I have hunting and fishing trips booked months in advance. Every year, there is a desperate call for coaches in football and baseball. I always volunteer to assist when available. Most of the coaches are dads of players on the team. Last year, his baseball team had 1 coach and he didn’t want to do it but he did so that they could have a season. I volunteered to help and was there for 80% of the practices but missed 3 games. Interesting enough, the dads with players on the team who didn’t volunteer to help were at every practice and game sitting in a folding chair behind the backstop fence. The same ones who mumble under their breath and bitch and criticize the guy or guys actually working with the kids. These are not old men, most of them played the sport their kid is playing. Yet they want to spectate and criticize. I only reluctantly Coach now as a civic duty and would prefer that more 19-25 year olds would coach the Rec teams and get the dads off the field. Eight out of ten of them don’t want to be there to begin with. Rec departments take who they can get and often have to beg for volunteers.
Posted by ashy larry
Marcy Projects
Member since Mar 2010
5582 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 8:35 am to
quote:

Proud dads, at which point did you realize you are not a coach?



The point where I became a dad in my late thirties and realized that I haven't played organize sports in 20+ years. I'm honestly not qualified to bea coach but sadly know more than a lot of the dad's that never played as much as I did back in the day. I hope there are some coaches along the way that actually know what the hell they are doing. When/if my son gets the point of being competitive I'll either volunteer or preferably find him a team not being coached by the error-filled-shortshop's dad.
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