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re: Proud dads, at which point did you realize you are not a coach?
Posted on 9/9/19 at 8:39 am to Dick Leverage
Posted on 9/9/19 at 8:39 am to Dick Leverage
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loved coaching when I was in my 20s. I started when I was 19 as the OLine coach for my HS alma maters 8th grade team. Going into year 2, the head coach quit coaching a week before we started fall practice due to health issues. The varsity coach (my HS head coach )asked me to assume that responsibility. It was a big school in Ga’s highest classification. I did it for 12 years while I was single and young. I loved it. It was exciting and fun to lead a roster of over 80 kids year in and out. Won a lot of championships during those years.
Own of the things I liked to do when I coached youth offensive line was to have some of the high school varsity linemen come to our practices to work with the boys. I found the kids really responded to the high school guys they watched every Friday night giving them instruction and since I was already teaching the kids the same fundamentals and scheme that the high school players were using, the things the high schoolers did only served to solidify what the boys were learning. And doing this gave the high school boys the community service that’s required for them. It was a win/win for everyone.
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Posted on 9/9/19 at 8:40 am to Dick Leverage
I coached a couple of seasons of soccer when my son played. I'd still volunteer to coach or help out were it not for the parents I had to deal with. I'd say 80% of the parents are fine, but that 20% just made the whole experience miserable. One mom threatened to sue me because her kid got hurt in practice. She had her finger in my face screaming at me in the parking lot as I was trying to leave. The kid just twisted his ankle and was fine by the next practice.
She did at least apologize the next day. She actually came by my office and apologized face-to-face. None of the other awful parents ever apologized.
She did at least apologize the next day. She actually came by my office and apologized face-to-face. None of the other awful parents ever apologized.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 8:49 am to white beans
i can tell you that i have coached swimming for almost 30 years. It is fun...as long as you can identify the really crazy parents, and keep a safe distance from them.
Having my own kids playing baseball (for example), changing from coach to dad is difficult to accomplish.
Having said that, I have always told my kids coaches that if they see me at practice, I am willing to help. However, my solution was (when possible) to show up to baseball practice VERY early, and as kids showed up, simply start running them through drills. Most of the time, the head coach would show up and just watch me run practice.
For the record, "coaching" kids, especially young ones, is not very difficult. You really do not need to know very many technical methods. Show some enthusiasm (they feed off of your energy - positive or negative), talk to them - if a kids thinks you are interested in him/her they will trust you, and most importantly be organized. Down time leads to kids losing focus, and there is no doubt that when little Johnny starts wandering, that is when his crazy mom/dad show up. Never fails!!
Having my own kids playing baseball (for example), changing from coach to dad is difficult to accomplish.
Having said that, I have always told my kids coaches that if they see me at practice, I am willing to help. However, my solution was (when possible) to show up to baseball practice VERY early, and as kids showed up, simply start running them through drills. Most of the time, the head coach would show up and just watch me run practice.
For the record, "coaching" kids, especially young ones, is not very difficult. You really do not need to know very many technical methods. Show some enthusiasm (they feed off of your energy - positive or negative), talk to them - if a kids thinks you are interested in him/her they will trust you, and most importantly be organized. Down time leads to kids losing focus, and there is no doubt that when little Johnny starts wandering, that is when his crazy mom/dad show up. Never fails!!
Posted on 9/9/19 at 8:50 am to ashy larry
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The point where I became a dad in my late thirties and realized that I haven't played organize sports in 20+ years. I'm honestly not qualified to bea coach but sadly know more than a lot of the dad's that never played as much as I did back in the day.
I was in the same position when my son started playing youth sports. This was about 2009 and the last organized sport I had played (others than men’s softball league) was over 20 years ago. I decided I was not going to just rely on what I remembered from “back in the day”. Instead I consulted the local high school coaching staff, watched a ton of online videos, and whatever books I could find. In short, I did all I could to teach myself on how to teach both baseball & football to kids.
And I think one of the most important decisions I made was to accept my limitations. Instead of wanting to be the head coach, I focused on being a position coach. In baseball I had experience as a catcher. So I focused on that. Although I did end up having to head coach a couple seasons. But even then I brought in guys who could help with pitchers far better than I ever could. In football I focused on offensive line and let others more qualified coach skill positions & defense.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 8:57 am to Darth_Vader
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There’s a right & wrong way to approach coaching youth sports. The first rule is you’ve got to keep in mind the purpose of youth sports
1. Fun for the kids
2. Teach them how to play the sport
3. Teach them about teamwork, sportsmanship, and always giving full effort.
Yep. First practice every year for me (middle school basketball) starts out with the same speech reminding them that I'm here to help you become better basketball players, but more importantly to have fun and become better young men on and off the court.
Rest takes care of itself. I only have them for a few hours a week so I am constantly reminding them that if they want to get better with skills, it's not going to be done in these 2 hours a week at practice.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 9:08 am to white beans
this past weekend at a U4 soccer game.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 9:14 am to white beans
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We’ve been stuck in a horrible cycle of being on teams coached by jacklegs who politic and power trip their way into controlling these sports teams but do not have a fricking clue of what to do when they get the keys. Our school community is plagued with it in virtually every sport, we finally broke down and defected to a club team with hopes for better instruction for the kiddo and a less toxic environment overall. There are sports for which there is no escape unfortunately.
Why do guys continue to do this shite when they are clearly ineffective?
Little Braxton and Brayden never had this trouble as I have coached them to multiple world series championships.
Not everyone can wear the rings.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 9:23 am to Golfer
One thing I remember from my days of coaching youth football was during our games watch the opposing teams’ offensive line play poorly almost every week. And it wasn’t the kids fault. It was just obvious they weren’t being taught anything past hitting the guy in front of them. They knew nothing of real blocking fundamentals and it showed. And the same was true for their defensive line. I felt bad for those kids because I knew when their youth ball days were over they’d go to play middle school & high school without first learning the fundamentals of the game. And it showed up in the youth league because we would almost always beat the hell out of the other team. In my son’s 5 years of youth football his team played for the championship every year and only lost it once. And it wasn’t that we had that much more talent, it came down to our kids knowing how to play fundamental football and the other kids not.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 9:26 am to Golfer
quote:Amen.
Because people like you complain but never volunteer.
It’s youth sports. Chill.
The people that coach every year get all kinds of heat but they never get a break.
To the OP: Just so you know, at the start of every season you get a chance to volunteer. You never never do. So then weeks before the season we get a call begging us to take a team because if we do not all the kids will not be able to play. We really did not want to because we have multiple kids and kinda want to watch them both. But we do.
We then have to manage the roster, the dugout, the scorebooks, the kids with behavioral issues, the kids with no fathers around, the kids with grandpas that played every sport at a professional level....but not one person to help us make sure no one gets hit with a bat.
We tie shoes, we give kids our water because the parents dont bring anything, we collect lost equipment and return it, we answer 700 questions on GroupMe about every game (where is it, when is it, what time to be there, is it going to rain, how much will it rain, are we rained out), we nurse injuries with ice packs because no one else will do it.
After all of this we have our kids bat 7th so no one will bitch and we make our kids sit first so no one will bitch. Hopefully we are able to identify a few things we can teach the kids at practices.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 9:30 am to Darth_Vader
quote:This is great advice. I youtube a bunch of things.
This was about 2009 and the last organized sport I had played (others than men’s softball league) was over 20 years ago. I decided I was not going to just rely on what I remembered from “back in the day”. Instead I consulted the local high school coaching staff, watched a ton of online videos, and whatever books I could find. In short, I did all I could to teach myself on how to teach both baseball & football to kids.
I also have learned to try to id one or two things to get better at as a team and dont bounce around too much. When the kids start showing improvement they get more and more confidence in themselves but they start enjoying the coaching.
It is a tough balance to try to make sure the more skilled players are challenged and the less skilled kids are given an opportunity to improve.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 9:41 am to white beans
I knew what I was doing. I coached basketball, football, soccer, and baseball for many years. 
Posted on 9/9/19 at 9:45 am to tigerfoot
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After all of this we have our kids bat 7th so no one will bitch and we make our kids sit first so no one will bitch.
I remember coaching my daughter’s softball team when she was in 1st or 2nd grade. At that level we played 10 on the field and everyone batted once a inning if you didn’t get 3 outs first. I had 11 girls on the team so that meant every inning one girl had to sit the dugout when we were on the field. To keep things fair I worked up a rotation so each girl would only sit one inning out of every 10 innings. And to keep anyone from claiming I was playing “daddy ball”, I had my daughter be the first one to sit out an inning from being a fielder. But when the next inning came and I had the next girl on the rotation take her turn sitting the dugout, here came her dad asking why his girl was sitting. I explained to him I had 11 girls and could only put 10 on the field so every inning one girl had to sit. I showed him my roster and explained to him how I would rotate who sits each inning so all the girls would get equal playing time. He didn’t like that so I politely told him to choose which girl had to sit extra innings so his girl didn’t have to sit. I also told him he could then go explain to that girl’s parents why their little girl had to sit out so his little girl didn’t have to. They ended up quitting after that game. What sucks is that little girl loved to play softball but because of her crazy parents she didn’t get to. Instead of sitting one inning out of ten, which is less than one inning a game, she missed the whole season.
This post was edited on 9/9/19 at 9:47 am
Posted on 9/9/19 at 9:48 am to white beans
I think knowing ones own limitations are important. It's even helpful to have an idea of how one might measure this fitness for the job.
If my title is "Coach", and I wasn't sure if I were succeeding or failing, I might check my record.
If Wins > Losses : I'm a coach! frick yeah!!
Else if Wins < Losses : This sucks! I wish I were a real coach. I need to find a calling better suited to my strengths.
If my title is "Coach", and I wasn't sure if I were succeeding or failing, I might check my record.
If Wins > Losses : I'm a coach! frick yeah!!
Else if Wins < Losses : This sucks! I wish I were a real coach. I need to find a calling better suited to my strengths.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 9:50 am to white beans
quote:When I was 12.
Proud dads, at which point did you realize you are not a coach?
They forced me.
I wasn't an umpire either.
They forced me.
I wasn't a Scout leader either.
They forced me.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 9:52 am to Darth_Vader
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I remember coaching my daughter’s softball team when she was in 1st or 2nd grade. At that level we played 10 on the field and everyone batted once a inning if you didn’t get 3 outs first. I had 11 girls on the team so that meant every inning one girl had to sit the dugout when we were on the field. To keep things fair I worked up a rotation so each girl would only sit one inning out of every 10 innings. And to keep anyone from claiming I was playing “daddy ball”, I had my daughter be the first one to sit out an inning from being a fielder. But when the next inning came and I had the next girl on the rotation take her turn sitting the dugout, here came her dad asking why his girl was sitting. I explained to him I had 11 girls and could only put 10 on the field so every inning one girl had to sit. I showed him my roster and explained to him how I would rotate who sits each inning so all the girls would get equal playing time. He didn’t like that so I politely told him to choose which girl had to sit extra innings so his girl didn’t have to sit. I also told him he could then go explain to that girl’s parents why their little girl had to sit out so his little girl didn’t have to. They ended up quitting after that game. What sucks is that little girl loved to play softball but because of her crazy parents she didn’t get to. Instead of sitting one inning out of ten, which is less than one inning a game, she missed the whole season.
Cool story DaOweOrth
Posted on 9/9/19 at 9:52 am to Woodreaux
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If my title is "Coach", and I wasn't sure if I were succeeding or failing, I might check my record.
If Wins > Losses : I'm a coach! frick yeah!!
Else if Wins < Losses : This sucks! I wish I were a real coach. I need to find a calling better suited to my strengths.
Eh. At the youth sports level, some schools/teams just have better players. Either due to larger school size or just pure luck.
I've had everything from an 0-15 season to a 35-0 run with a team over two years.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 9:53 am to Darth_Vader
quote:There is no reasoning with them. IF they go to practice they never take their eyes off their kid, they dont even learn the other kids names.
I showed him my roster and explained to him how I would rotate who sits each inning so all the girls would get equal playing time. He didn’t like that
In spite of popular opinion kids like to win. They also like to participate, but they know the pecking order normally. A good coach will keep his eyes open to how the kids evolve thru the season, who is working hard, who is listening and who is working at home...it is generally easy to tell.
Parent "why cant my kid play first base"
Coach"because he cant catch a thrown baseball"
Parent"it just doesnt seem fair"
Coach'"it wouldn't be fair for me to sending him to the ER to get stitches to make you happy"
Parent on message board: My kids coach is an a-hole
Posted on 9/9/19 at 9:55 am to Darth_Vader
I had a similar system when I coached soccer. We had 4 or 5 extra players at every game. It took a LOT of work, but I created a starting lineup for every game for the season, rotating every player so they all started an equal number of games, then had a set substitution pattern. I emailed it to all the parents letting them know how playing time would go. I had no complaints that season about playing time. The most complaints I got were that I didn't hound the refs for bad calls. This was for U10 soccer, so 8-10 year old kids. I felt that was a bad example so I avoided it. I would ask the ref for an explanation on some calls I didn't agree with, but always did it with respect. We won the league that year, but that had little to do with me. We just had a stud player that scored probably 75% of our goals. Every kid on the team knew to just feed the ball to Alex and let him do his thing. He moved to a different state a year or two later, and last I heard he was starting for the varsity high school team as a freshman.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 10:00 am to tigerfoot
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Parent "why cant my kid play first base"
One thing I’d always explain to parents in my first talk with them in preseason was about how I would never put a kid in a position they cannot play. It’s not fair to the kid or the team. If the parent wants little Johnny to be a pitcher but little Johnny can’t pitch, all that will be accomplished by putting little Johnny at pitcher is you’ve put him in a position to fail. It’s best to evaluate a kid’s talents and put him at a position where he can succeed. It might be that little Johnny can’t pitch but he’s a good 3rd. baseman or a good outfielder.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 10:09 am to white beans
I quit when they told us we couldn't use neon color schemes for our snapback flatbills. It was the last straw.
I almost quit when they banned under armour head to toe gear the year before.
My wife stopped coming when they told her she couldn't park my chrome blue jacked up with 40" tires silverado with limo tint windows 22" rims a $4000 stereo system and coal flowmaster pipes right next to the bleachers so she could blast Jason Aldean greatest hits throughout the games for the whole ballpark to enjoy while drinking her fireball shots when Kayden would hit homeruns on these dweeb kids
I almost quit when they banned under armour head to toe gear the year before.
My wife stopped coming when they told her she couldn't park my chrome blue jacked up with 40" tires silverado with limo tint windows 22" rims a $4000 stereo system and coal flowmaster pipes right next to the bleachers so she could blast Jason Aldean greatest hits throughout the games for the whole ballpark to enjoy while drinking her fireball shots when Kayden would hit homeruns on these dweeb kids
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