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Posted on 12/2/21 at 4:28 pm to
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Member since Feb 2006
11764 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 4:28 pm to
The Mayo Clinic specialist I’m seeing is suggesting HIFU
Posted by bouefbengal
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
2320 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 4:57 pm to
Pretty sure Ochsner in offering HIFU now.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68857 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 5:01 pm to
You only wait if you are already old because something else might kill you first.

Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15178 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 5:02 pm to
quote:

When was the last PSA done? Steady PSA is good. I know they typically say under 4, but they also say that as long as it's steady.

Off topic I know but one can have a PSA over 5 and be fine. That's me. But I have had three prostate biopsies. All negative. Take meds to reduce the number and it worked.
Posted by metallica81788
NO
Member since Sep 2008
8597 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 5:16 pm to
For the love of god do not do HIFU

Anyone who recommends that upfront is a snake oil salesman and cannot be trusted. Run far away
This post was edited on 12/2/21 at 5:19 pm
Posted by SuwMwf
Member since Jul 2012
948 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 5:19 pm to
Age is importanr
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9822 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 5:19 pm to
As others have asked:

How old is the patient?

Is the PSA increasing or steady?
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
17319 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 5:27 pm to
Active surveillance should be the plan with a Gleason score of 6 (lowest score possible).

Family history and such should be taken into consideration.

There’s a YouTube channel called Prostate Cancer Research Institute that I highly recommend.

You’ll be okay.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
59598 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 5:30 pm to
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Psa steady at 5, 4 spots, gleason score 6. Otherwise healthy. Friend. Surgery or wait?

age is important here. Were the spots close to the margins?

you fall within active surveillance but I would only do that if I was over 70, clean family history, and don't mind going through biopsies. Also, have you had a scan yet?

This post was edited on 12/2/21 at 5:32 pm
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 5:30 pm to
quote:

whatever the doctor tells you.


Because in many cases the common treatments have similar likely outcomes, but different potential side effects Drs. let the patient decide what treatment they want.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 5:36 pm to
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Internal radiation?


Radioactive pellets are inserted into the prostate gland itself to kill the cancer cells, as opposed to external beam radiation where you lay under a large machine and the prostate is irradiated.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65856 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 5:37 pm to
quote:

how the hell does waiting help?
Many men who have known that they have prostate cancer die of something totally unrelated that was more aggressive or was incidental (heart attack, accident, etc.).

To your question waiting does not HELP but if there are little or no symptoms and one’s case is not rapidly progressing, the suggested therapy is often to wait and watch.

The cure is considered worse than the disease in that instance.
Posted by TSmith
New Orleans, La.
Member since Jan 2004
1654 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 5:51 pm to
My dad had HIFU. High intensity focused ultrasound. Obliterated his tumor. That said, he is a retired physician and wishes he had done radiation. Basically HIFU is one procedure and done, with very little side effects, and that is why he did it originally. But radiation is more proven. Good luck to you.
Posted by duggieblue
GA
Member since Feb 2010
4335 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 5:57 pm to
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That and I wanted nothing to do with that catheter insertion for several weeks


Several weeks? Seven days for me.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
59598 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 6:01 pm to
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My psa was recently at 6.9, in august it was 5.3. The Dr was concerned about the fluctuations in the psa level. But I do have a spot about 1.2cm that is cancer.
I have a teleahealth visit with Mayo Clinic next Thursday and MD Anderson the following Monday.
My local urologist is suggesting removing the prostate.

One year ago today my PSA was at 8.0. Told my doctor and he said take it easy riding your bicycle and we will test again 3 months. IN 3 months it came back at 9. I had a biopsy done and 1 out of 12 cores came back positive 3+4. I have a family history of it. My grandfather died from it, my dad just went through it so this was expected. Just didn't think it was going to be before I was 50 though.

After discussing it with urologist and oncologist, due to my age the only option was surgery. Had it removed exactly 3 months ago today. I went for bloodwork today to check my PSA level.

Surgery went about as good as it possibly could. Pathology report was that the margins were clear and it was encapsulated. I recovered quickly and was actually back running as normal after 4 weeks. I do a lot of exercising before and I think that made my recovery great along with a great doctor. I didn't experience any incontinence or any of the other factors men tend to be concerned about.

I feel very fortunate and it's brought a new perspective about life. My buddy hasnt been so lucky. His had spread to lymph nodes and beyond. He had surgery, radiation, and hormone treatment and still dealing with it 8 years later.
This post was edited on 12/2/21 at 6:04 pm
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21469 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 6:14 pm to
He is 68 and steady psa
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
12016 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 6:57 pm to
Mine was similar five years ago, age 75. Had a biopsy, cancer.

He gave me the options on treatment. I selected "Brachytherapy". They insert radioactive seeds into the Prostate.
The advantage is, after the seeds are in place, you return to normal activity in about a week. It also doesn't leave you with a leaky valve. Since I was a healthy 75, I didn't want to deal with diapers for several years.
My PSA now is less than .o1.
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9822 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 6:58 pm to
"He is 68 and steady psa"
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You mentiponed otherwise healthy. A case could be made for removal.

I had mine removed twenty years ago at Johns Hopkins (non-robot). I was around 50. The cancer was still confined to the prostate. I am able to have sex, never had any leakage, and am cancer free.

I have a brother who is older and obese. He had seed implants and radiation several years back. PSA is still low.

And my younger brother just had his removed two months ago in Lafayette. He seems to be doing fine. This was a robot procedure.

Once a prostate is radiated, removal is not an option.
Posted by SuwMwf
Member since Jul 2012
948 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 6:59 pm to
That’s (68) not very young for that score. FIL had same gleason and higher PSA. Lafayette urologist wanted to do SX. MDA said some radiation and surveillance. All has been perfect since.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21469 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 7:06 pm to
[quote]Once a prostate is radiated, removal is not an option.

Wait, what? Why?
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