re: Prosecutors say Marcellus Williams is innocent. He’s scheduled to be executed tonight.

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What is ur problem ? How dare you bring logic, facts and sanity into a thread like this……

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Don’t you travel the world to frick underage hookers?

He is guilty as frick. It's not even disputable.

Facts:

1) Williams girlfriend saw him with blood on his shirt that day. She also found the victim's purse and laptop in his car.

2) Another guy said Williams sold him the victim's laptop.

3) Williams had 15 prior violent felony convictions. While serving time for one of them, he told his cellmate he killed Gayle. Police said the cellmate had accurate information that had never been released to the public.

4) Williams bragged about the murder to various people, all of whom talked to Police and/or testified.

5) Police found some of Gayle's items in the trunk of Williams' car.

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The VAST majority of people when asked would consider the gov't inept when it comes to doing things. Why we think they can effectively arbiter life and death is comical. I understand wanting the death penalty, but even being wrong ONE time makes it not worth it and there's NO WAY the gov't can get it right 100% of the time.

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This is precisely the line of thinking that took me from militantly pro death penalty in college to completely against it in middle age.

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Nearly 2.5% of those convicted to die were later proven innocent.

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Not proven innocent, many of them actually did it but procedurally the case had problems, often prosecutions have technical issues that get uncovered by...

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there is a GANG of very capable and determined attorney's who will go to bat for those on death row

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These people.

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would require criminals to consider the consequences of their actions before acting,

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To note, I do not believe the death penalty should be used for a gas station shooting in a robbery that went wrong. Which is often the case for those cases overturned.
But people like Scott Peterson, sure as he'll that's the pre meditation and beyond shadow of a doubt case the death penalty should apply to.

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This is precisely the line of thinking that took me from militantly pro death penalty in college to completely against it in middle age.

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What about confessions?

What about situations with clear evidence (DNA)?

You keep saying the govt and state is executing people. People are executed when a jury of their peers decides unanimously that they are guilty of murdering someone.

Random people who have no criminal history aren’t being convicted of murder wrongfully.
Are a small percentage of people who are convicted of murder maybe innocent? Possibly. Those “innocent” people were convicted b/c they were shitty people with likely an extensive criminal record anyway. And no that doesn’t mean they deserve to die, but I’m not going to free 98 guilty as frick murderers b/c two pieces of shite might not have murdered someone on this case, even though their life path would without a doubt lead you to believe they could be murderer.
It’s 2024, not 1950 or 1855. We aren’t randomly lynching people for crimes we have no real proof on. If you’re being accused of murder today, it’s b/c you’re already a piece of shite.

And I don’t think we should be executing people that don’t have proof without a reasonable doubt they did it. Lawyers are manipulating assholes and jurors are stupid. Derrick Todd Lee should have been executed in a few weeks of being captured. That’s the type of crime and proof of conviction case that should have the death penalty. It should be so obvious that we don’t even need to go to trial. If you actually have to go to trial b/c there actually is some slither of doubt, then death penalty shouldn’t be an option. That jackass that ran over everyone during that Christmas parade in Wisconsin…..should have been executed within weeks.

For this case, where it’s pretty obvious this guy did it, I’m fine with life in prison. All signs point toward him doing it, but there’s no real obvious proof without a reasonable doubt. With today’s technology, I want video proof or cell phone proof(calls, texts, location), and finding the murder weapon obviously tied to the accused proof. Death penalty should be so obvious that there is no need for an investigation or trial. The person should be shot when captured b/c it’s that obvious.

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a shame he just got executed.

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No it isnt

My faith and trust in Lord Jesus Son of Living God no longer allows me to support executions. No man is above God and vengeance is God's alone. This man will get his just rewards whether guilty or not in his coming judgement, but those who take his life will seal their own fate as well and be judged equally.

My prayers are for all of these people involved. Forgive them Father for they know not what they do. Glory be to the Father, Son and Holy Spirit now and forever. Amen.

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Random people who have no criminal history aren’t being convicted of murder wrongfully.

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Yes they are.

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Kirk Bloodsworth, the first American on death row to be exonerated by DNA evidence, said he "never really imagined how science would help me in my life" until he found himself facing the death penalty.

While in jail, he was given a book that described how a new technology called genetic fingerprinting had led to the conviction of a British murderer and rapist. "That's where my epiphany came," Bloodsworth said. "If it can convict you, why can't it free you?"

He spoke at a 23 Oct. event marking the fifth anniversary of the AAAS Science and Human Rights Coalition, a network of scientific membership organizations dedicated to advancing the use of science and technology in the cause of human rights, and to looking at the human rights implications of advances in S&T.

For Bloodsworth, science was to have a profound impact. He spent nearly nine years in a Maryland prison after being convicted in 1985 of the murder of Dawn Hamilton, a nine-year-old girl. Bloodsworth, then a commercial fisherman, vigorously protested his innocence.

After reading the book about the conviction of British murderer Colin Pitchfork, Bloodsworth pressed to have physical evidence in his case — traces of semen in the victim's underwear — tested for DNA, only to be told that it had been lost. Bloodsworth urged his attorney to press for one more search, and it eventually was found in a paper bag in the trial judge's closet.

Bloodsworth's attorney, who now is a judge, called him excitedly when the DNA results were back. "Kirk, you're innocent, man, you're innocent," he said.

"I know that," Bloodsworth responded.

In 2003, nearly ten years after his release from prison, Bloodsworth learned from the Baltimore County prosecutor's office that prisoner DNA evidence added to state and federal databases had led to the identification of the real killer, a man named Kimberly Shay Ruffner.