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re: Pros and cons of $5,000 stimulus check

Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:55 pm to
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32602 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:55 pm to
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Beyond just the massive inflation it would cause it’s fiscally irresponsible to do


Structural inflation like we have all felt the last 3-4 years was caused by a rapid increase in the money supply.

How is this a net increase in money supply? This is money that the government decided not to spend and are returning (at least some of it) it to the taxpayers for them to spend.
Posted by Dalosaqy
I can't quite re
Member since Dec 2007
12735 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:16 pm to
Con: Ain't gonna happen.
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
14026 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 11:01 pm to
quote:

not stimulus

rebate


If they were rebates money would be distributed across the board at a rate equal to the percentage of taxes you paid. The top 1% pay 40% of taxes and get zero stimulus. The top 2%-50% of taxpayers pay 57% of taxes. The bottom 50% pay three percent of taxes. Yet the bottom 50% of taxpayers receive a substantial amount of the stimulus money.

The government needs to be paying down debt, not thinking about stimulus, to avoid worse inflation and potential currency instability in the future.


Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
21153 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 11:56 pm to
Cons. Getting taxed again
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10672 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:02 am to
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It’s not a stimulus check.

Lolz. You politards never stop with the partisan hackery. It is a fricking stimulus check, it is retarded, and a huge number of people that get it don’t pay any federal taxes at all. Hilariously, they act like they’ve found all this money and can dish out this dividend; meanwhile, they’re rooting through SSA claiming millions of dead people are on the take.

DOGE!
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
60596 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:19 am to
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Yep, make it the next guys problem after they retire or move on
Post before yours....
quote:

Why do so many of you give a shite about the national debt?

Why is it my responsibility to help pay for the stupid arse spending the govt has made. Let them figure it out
Someone should ask Argentinians if currency collapse is fun or not? Ultimately, one can't exempt yourself from the ensuing chaos, violence and famines that result by saying "'its not my respnosibility"
Posted by The Cool No 9
70816
Member since Jan 2014
10627 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:20 am to
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It's stupid. Pay down the debt, stop buying votes.
Yeah it's stupid af

Can I have your 5k too?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
60596 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:24 am to
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Not a stimulus, it’s a rebate. ...It’s our existing money.
Isn't it odd. Taxes you've paid are "your money" but the debt is "other people's problem".
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
32832 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 6:08 am to
Keep dreaming about that check. You are not going to see it any time soon.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6848 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 6:18 am to
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and then decided to cut this from the budget.


Have they, though? Has there actually been a cut to the federal budget? Is there any verifiable proof of actual “savings?”
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11220 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 6:54 am to
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• Probably some, but I can't think of any


Other than inflation akin to that which resulted in handing out money to anyone asking for it during COVID.

First off there ain't $5K per taxpayer to be found. If there were it would be far better invested in paying down the debt. It doesn't exist so it doesn't matter.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27403 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 6:55 am to
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It’s not a stimulus check.


I call it “shite I don’t need check”.

Covid got me a sweet guitar and got my house re-sided. To be fair some of it was Hodpital “please don’t leave check”.

If given out this time? It goes to foundation repair.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
20949 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 6:57 am to
Pros

-You can finally afford a hobby and stop posting.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
450812 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 7:00 am to
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Structural inflation like we have all felt the last 3-4 years was caused by a rapid increase in the money supply.

How is this a net increase in money supply?

Because this money that is saved is supposed to pay down our debt, which removes that money from the money supply.

You're also ignoring the demand curve shifting.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
450812 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 7:02 am to
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The difference is, I'm not the cause of the debt


Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
25999 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 7:03 am to
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Have they, though? Has there actually been a cut to the federal budget? Is there any verifiable proof of actual “savings?”

I’m waiting for the specifics on all this “fraud” they claim to be finding. If there is billions of dollars in “fraud” going on, there are people who were engaged in fraud who have now been identified and their fraudulent schemes discovered.

Yet there are no names, no specifics, no indictments. Why is that?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
450812 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 7:05 am to
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. I am sure Trump has some idea about the money that will be saved and a plan to pay off the debt in a timely fashion

Why are you so sure?

quote:

More people will start to pay attention to the waste and fraud found and will want the discovery to be continued with more support.

This is the "shiny object" to distract you from the failure above. That's the point of this circus.

You don't even realize it.
Posted by shoelessjoe
Member since Jul 2006
10836 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 8:06 am to
You know all about failures!
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
15189 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 8:22 am to
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Absolutely this. Beyond just the massive inflation it would cause it’s fiscally irresponsible to do. And shows worrying about the national debt isn’t their real concern

Nailed it! You think prices are high now. Send everybody a check to spend more. See how fast companies would raise their prices even more. Use that money to try and start helping everyone out in the long term not the short term.
Posted by HarryBalzack
Member since Oct 2012
15987 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 8:25 am to
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CONS

• Probably some, but I can't think of any
• Inflation
• Not needed
• Inflationary pressure will help keep interest rates higher.
• Will be added to the debt
• Makes the layoffs, contract cancellations, and grant crawfishing pointless.
• Amounts to more bread and circus.
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