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Problem with Big Bang Theory and Creationism
Posted on 9/16/18 at 10:55 pm
Posted on 9/16/18 at 10:55 pm
There was nothing, then it exploded: That nothing was everything we see in the universe, that at one point (in time?) Was so infinitely tiny, but so dense that it exploded. What caused the Bang we dont know.
For Creationists they face a similar conundrum: so, a creator created everything when he spoke it to existence. But, where did all matter and mass come from? Nothing? Right? Out of thin air?
Every base element that makes up all matter came from a source yet before all things we see it was nothing.
Weird to think about. How does nothing become something. Something we can see and touch; taste and smell; hear and feel whether physically or emotionally.
And who created God? Or is time an illusion?
Yes, i sometimes smoke.
For Creationists they face a similar conundrum: so, a creator created everything when he spoke it to existence. But, where did all matter and mass come from? Nothing? Right? Out of thin air?
Every base element that makes up all matter came from a source yet before all things we see it was nothing.
Weird to think about. How does nothing become something. Something we can see and touch; taste and smell; hear and feel whether physically or emotionally.
And who created God? Or is time an illusion?
Yes, i sometimes smoke.
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Posted on 9/16/18 at 10:57 pm to reo45
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Yes, i sometimes smoke.
Who'd a thunk it
This post was edited on 9/16/18 at 10:58 pm
Posted on 9/16/18 at 10:57 pm to reo45
Trick questions. None of this is real. We're all inside a computer.
Posted on 9/16/18 at 11:00 pm to reo45
I think the biggest problem with the big bang theory is that it isn't that funny.
Posted on 9/16/18 at 11:03 pm to reo45
Stoner
Posted on 9/16/18 at 11:03 pm to reo45
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Yes, i sometimes smoke.
Just sometimes? It's ok, if this is what you come up with stoned I can live with that. Some other dipshit should smoke because his thread says Trump supporters are the same as Duke supporters...
Posted on 9/16/18 at 11:04 pm to reo45
Posted on 9/16/18 at 11:14 pm to reo45
Did you know that a Catholic priest came up with the Big Bang Theory?
Creationism and science are not necessarily mutually exclusive.
Creationism and science are not necessarily mutually exclusive.
Posted on 9/16/18 at 11:20 pm to reo45
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And who created God?
God exists outside the bounds of time or space. No matter what scientific conclusion you come to, it returns to creationism, ultimately.
Posted on 9/16/18 at 11:22 pm to sabanisarustedspoke
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Trump supporters are the same as Duke supporters...
:kige:
Posted on 9/16/18 at 11:23 pm to reo45
When I was in college I wrote a 3 or 4 page short story that Earth was a science project of a guy named Joshua. I forget the particulars, but during a crucial phase he fell asleep, and when he woke up the experiment had accelerated and the people had developed atomic weapons, wars were being waged, people being treated cruelly...so he just cancelled it and destroyed it.
Years later I saw that there was a story with a similar premise (though I couldn't tell you what the name of it is or who the writer is). I was disappointed I didn't try to publish it when I wrote it.
But later it did make me wonder about some philosopher's observation that some ideas and inventions come about at roughly the same time, independently of each other. Don't remember who that was, either.
Years later I saw that there was a story with a similar premise (though I couldn't tell you what the name of it is or who the writer is). I was disappointed I didn't try to publish it when I wrote it.
But later it did make me wonder about some philosopher's observation that some ideas and inventions come about at roughly the same time, independently of each other. Don't remember who that was, either.
Posted on 9/16/18 at 11:24 pm to Reservoir dawg
But how does something come from nothing?
If God (Creator) made it, what did he make it from? How did Oxygen, Nitrogen, Carbon, etc... come to be? Is it a part of his essence? Is all things we see just an extension of his being? To return one day to its source?
And what is god? If spirit...
If God (Creator) made it, what did he make it from? How did Oxygen, Nitrogen, Carbon, etc... come to be? Is it a part of his essence? Is all things we see just an extension of his being? To return one day to its source?
And what is god? If spirit...
Posted on 9/16/18 at 11:26 pm to CCT
I love the idea, but once again where did Joshua get the material to practice this project? From nothing, right? How does nothing become something?
Posted on 9/16/18 at 11:27 pm to reo45
We simply don’t know what happened at T=0. Lots of different theories but as far as I know they’re simply that. That doesn’t discredit the Big Bang though, everything points to that being true.
Edit Big Bang
Baby pic of our universe, the cosmic microwave background.
The discovery of CMB is landmark evidence of the Big Bang origin of the universe. When the universe was young, before the formation of stars and planets, it was denser, much hotter, and filled with a uniform glow from a white-hot fog of hydrogen plasma. As the universe expanded, both the plasma and the radiation filling it grew cooler. When the universe cooled enough, protons and electrons combined to form neutral hydrogen atoms. Unlike the uncombined protons and electrons, these newly conceived atoms could not absorb the thermal radiation, and so the universe became transparent instead of being an opaque fog.[3] Cosmologists refer to the time period when neutral atoms first formed as the recombination epoch, and the event shortly afterwards when photons started to travel freely through space rather than constantly being scattered by electrons and protons in plasma is referred to as photon decoupling. The photons that existed at the time of photon decoupling have been propagating ever since, though growing fainter and less energetic, since the expansion of space causes their wavelength to increase over time (and wavelength is inversely proportional to energy according to Planck's relation). This is the source of the alternative term relic radiation. The surface of last scattering refers to the set of points in space at the right distance from us so that we are now receiving photons originally emitted from those points at the time of photon decoupling.
Edit Big Bang
Baby pic of our universe, the cosmic microwave background.
The discovery of CMB is landmark evidence of the Big Bang origin of the universe. When the universe was young, before the formation of stars and planets, it was denser, much hotter, and filled with a uniform glow from a white-hot fog of hydrogen plasma. As the universe expanded, both the plasma and the radiation filling it grew cooler. When the universe cooled enough, protons and electrons combined to form neutral hydrogen atoms. Unlike the uncombined protons and electrons, these newly conceived atoms could not absorb the thermal radiation, and so the universe became transparent instead of being an opaque fog.[3] Cosmologists refer to the time period when neutral atoms first formed as the recombination epoch, and the event shortly afterwards when photons started to travel freely through space rather than constantly being scattered by electrons and protons in plasma is referred to as photon decoupling. The photons that existed at the time of photon decoupling have been propagating ever since, though growing fainter and less energetic, since the expansion of space causes their wavelength to increase over time (and wavelength is inversely proportional to energy according to Planck's relation). This is the source of the alternative term relic radiation. The surface of last scattering refers to the set of points in space at the right distance from us so that we are now receiving photons originally emitted from those points at the time of photon decoupling.
This post was edited on 9/16/18 at 11:33 pm
Posted on 9/16/18 at 11:29 pm to reo45
God does whatever he wants.
Read "the final question" if you want a kinda cool pseudo hypothesis. It's definitely best read stoned.
Read "the final question" if you want a kinda cool pseudo hypothesis. It's definitely best read stoned.
Posted on 9/16/18 at 11:31 pm to reo45
No one created God. Genesis lays it out.
God has always been. He is the beginning and the end.
Big Bang? Everything was created from a tiny piece of matter. Who created the matter? God.
Both lead you to God.
God has always been. He is the beginning and the end.
Big Bang? Everything was created from a tiny piece of matter. Who created the matter? God.
Both lead you to God.
Posted on 9/16/18 at 11:34 pm to reo45
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But how does something come from nothing?
If God (Creator) made it, what did he make it from? How did Oxygen, Nitrogen, Carbon, etc... come to be? Is it a part of his essence? Is all things we see just an extension of his being? To return one day to its source?
And what is god? If spirit...
If God exists beyond time and space, I'd think the rest of it can be chalked up to the supernatural power of creationism. You can't find a scientific explanation to the origin of anything that exists in the physical universe, even if you keep digging for it. Anyone who claims to know is either wrong, or God himself.
Posted on 9/16/18 at 11:36 pm to pwejr88
I comprehend that matter came from a source (God i agree), but where did God come up with the elements to make matter? From nothing right?
That is really an amazing concept to think on. He thought of something to make and it just appeared from his conscious into the dimensional realm we call home.
He literally made something out of nothing but his mind. That is fricked up to grasp.
I also do believe there was a bang. Science seems to point to the logic of it being real. I believe a teaspoon of a dying star i once read about had more mass than the entire earth. A fricking teaspoon. So, yes the logic is real.
That is really an amazing concept to think on. He thought of something to make and it just appeared from his conscious into the dimensional realm we call home.
He literally made something out of nothing but his mind. That is fricked up to grasp.
I also do believe there was a bang. Science seems to point to the logic of it being real. I believe a teaspoon of a dying star i once read about had more mass than the entire earth. A fricking teaspoon. So, yes the logic is real.
Posted on 9/16/18 at 11:41 pm to DavidTheGnome
I read it. Solid theory and logical. Im all on board the BB train, but not naive enough to think it was an accident or random event. It was purposeful. So where in the hell all the material universe came from is the crux of the problem and leads to an ever ending cycle of "Nothing became Something" and that something seems to follow a path towards and end--the universe.
Posted on 9/16/18 at 11:48 pm to reo45
I was really amped to shite talk the sitcom. This thread has let me down.
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