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Post US War for Independence
Posted on 6/29/20 at 9:32 am
Posted on 6/29/20 at 9:32 am
Haven’t seen a bunch on the post war feeling amongst founding fathers. From what I recall from growing up, School pretty much gives the history leading up to the war, the war, and then it’s just like Washington is president and everything is great. Were Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, and company like “holy shite we actually did it, what are we going to do now?” Or had they completely had a road map to self governance in place with government position appointments already planned out?
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Posted on 6/29/20 at 9:37 am to Emteein
there was a lot of bullshite they had to deal with around this new country with no precedent of anything.
For example, it wasn't even originally clear if SCOTUS could strike down a law it found unconstitutional
For example, it wasn't even originally clear if SCOTUS could strike down a law it found unconstitutional
This post was edited on 6/29/20 at 9:38 am
Posted on 6/29/20 at 9:37 am to Emteein
It took a while to get everything settled in. Lots of folks wanted George Dubya to be a monarch. Obvi that totes didn’t happen
Posted on 6/29/20 at 9:38 am to Emteein
Thousands of British loyalists expatriated.
The Founders said, “frick, now we owe $100 million”
And so it began.
The Founders said, “frick, now we owe $100 million”
And so it began.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 9:39 am to Emteein
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That is the description of a podcast I follow called "History That Doesn't Suck". It's pretty good. They start out right before the revolution and have done around 80 episodes and the last episode was on Sherman and Atlanta. He goes pretty in depth on the first Conggress and how they hammered out the Constitution in a few episodes.
It's a really good American History podcast.I learned some stuff like I didn't realize how long British troops hung around out in the Western frontier near Ohio and Missouri. Like they had full forts and regiments for a long time out there. He shows how they used the natives to their advantage and how the French and Indian war was a consequence of the British using them for their land and constantly making and breaking treaties and such.
It's really good.
This post was edited on 6/29/20 at 9:43 am
Posted on 6/29/20 at 9:39 am to Emteein
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Or had they completely had a road map to self governance in place with government position appointments already planned out?
It was a bad road map. Thats how we got the Constitution about 10 years later.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 9:40 am to Emteein
Articles of Confederation was the first governmental system that didn't work so well. Then they called a new convention to set up the Constitutional Republic.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 9:43 am to IAmNERD
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by IAmNERD
Awesome thanks I will check it out, been looking for a new podcast. Wish Carlin would pump out content quicker.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 9:43 am to Emteein
The War basically ended in late 1781, Great Britain decided to end it in 1782, and the treaty was signed in 1783. George Washington didn’t become President until 1789. They had the articles of confederation and spent those 8 years since Yorktown fricking chickens.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 9:44 am to Emteein
It was not a smooth journey.
The American Revolutionary War ended in 1781 with the Treaty of Paris being signed in September 1783.
The Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union were a generally dismal effort by the states to create a constitution. It went into effect in 1781.
By 1787 enough states wanted to gut the Articles of Confederation that a Constitutional Convention was organized. It went into effect in 1789.
The American Revolutionary War ended in 1781 with the Treaty of Paris being signed in September 1783.
The Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union were a generally dismal effort by the states to create a constitution. It went into effect in 1781.
By 1787 enough states wanted to gut the Articles of Confederation that a Constitutional Convention was organized. It went into effect in 1789.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 9:52 am to Salviati
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By 1787 enough states wanted to gut the Articles of Confederation that a Constitutional Convention was organized. It went into effect in 1789.
And we spent the next 231 years gutting that
Posted on 6/29/20 at 9:53 am to Draconian Sanctions
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For example, it wasn't even originally clear if SCOTUS could strike down a law it found unconstitutional
The Supreme Court basically gave itself that power in Marbury v. Madison and everyone just went with it.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:06 am to Salviati
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It was not a smooth journey.
No indeed it wasn't.. Even with the Constitution that replaced the Articles of Confederation, there was a great deal of tension about what the Republic would look like right up until the Civil War. Which IMO was for all practical purposes the end of the argument deciding on where States rights ended and Federal Authority began..
Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:07 am to Emteein
We didn't even have a functioning constitution until 1789
Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:08 am to GetCocky11
quote:Remember all the GPS sending people into lakes and stuff? Now try following a handscrawled roadmap without even a screwy GPS.
It was a bad road map. Thats how we got the Constitution about 10 years later.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:12 am to Emteein
Definitely wasn't easy, and its a shame schools don't go deeper into what the aftermath of independence costed the average family.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:13 am to Emteein
You had a shitty education OP
Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:16 am to Emteein
Also, the notable founders were overseas for at least part of the 1780s.
Thomas Jefferson was the minister to France.
John Adams was the minister to the Netherlands and Great Britain.
Ben Franklin spent part of the 1780s as minister to France.
Thomas Jefferson was the minister to France.
John Adams was the minister to the Netherlands and Great Britain.
Ben Franklin spent part of the 1780s as minister to France.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:23 am to Emteein
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School pretty much gives the history leading up to the war, the war, and then it’s just like Washington is president and everything is great.
It was 1783 when the war ended and Washington didn't become the 1st president until 1789, there was a lot of figuring shite out.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:24 am to Emteein
Immediately after the British surrender at Yorktown, the Founding Fathers gathered together and partied like it twas 1799.
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