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re: Porsche is now an SUV company with a hatchback/sedan business and a small sports car wing
Posted on 10/4/21 at 3:33 pm to rickgrimes
Posted on 10/4/21 at 3:33 pm to rickgrimes
My biggest complaint of Porsche is they KNOWINGLY build an inferior car in the 911. What they have managed to do w/ a rear engine chassis is phenomenal, but the mid engine setup in the Cayman and GT is the best setup. Say as you wish w/ GM and Corvette, but they are trying to build the best car, and said to hell with tradition and did it.
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Posted on 10/4/21 at 3:41 pm to Big Block Stingray
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My biggest complaint of Porsche is they KNOWINGLY build an inferior car in the 911. What they have managed to do w/ a rear engine chassis is phenomenal, but the mid engine setup in the Cayman and GT is the best setup. Say as you wish w/ GM and Corvette, but they are trying to build the best car, and said to hell with tradition and did it.
the GT4 RS is going to be amazing. I think they will extremely limit production as not to step on the 911s heels. I say this as a GT3 owner.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 3:46 pm to achenator
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the GT4 RS is going to be amazing. I think they will extremely limit production as not to step on the 911s heels. I say this as a GT3 owner.
Agree, and that's my point.
If they would take the handcuffs off the Cayman, look out. But they won't in fear of showing up big brother.
This post was edited on 10/4/21 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 10/4/21 at 3:48 pm to rickgrimes
A lot of it probably has to do with price, Macan is porsche's cheapest vehicle. The vehicle you get so you can just say you have a porsche
If you want a porsche and you want 4 doors. You can either get the macan or cayenne or shell out $20,000-$35,000 more of a panamera
If you want a porsche and you want 4 doors. You can either get the macan or cayenne or shell out $20,000-$35,000 more of a panamera
Posted on 10/4/21 at 3:53 pm to Cosmo
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I cant fit my golf clubs in my 911
I fit two sets in mine.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 4:04 pm to Cosmo
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I cant fit my golf clubs in my 911
That is what the 2 bitch seats in the back are for.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 4:06 pm to Obtuse1
My clubs fit in the front seat. Too lazy to move the seat to stuff them in the back
Posted on 10/4/21 at 4:11 pm to Dragula
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For me life is too short to drive station wagons and minivans.
Porsche Panamera Turbo S N-ring time: 7:29.81
Corvette C8 Z51 N-ring time 7:29.90
Posted on 10/4/21 at 4:21 pm to Big Block Stingray
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My biggest complaint of Porsche is they KNOWINGLY build an inferior car in the 911. What they have managed to do w/ a rear engine chassis is phenomenal, but the mid engine setup in the Cayman and GT is the best setup. Say as you wish w/ GM and Corvette, but they are trying to build the best car, and said to hell with tradition and did it.
Nobody except arguably the hypercar manufacturers (of which Porsche is on and off one) builds their best car. They build a car to a price point that their customers will buy. They are also one if not the most successfully campaigned race cars of all time.
If anyone needs more capability than a GT2 RS they should or are driving sports cars for a living.
The core 911 owners are a pretty tradition-oriented bunch.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 4:28 pm to Big Block Stingray
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My biggest complaint of Porsche is they KNOWINGLY build an inferior car in the 911. What they have managed to do w/ a rear engine chassis is phenomenal, but the mid engine setup in the Cayman and GT is the best setup. Say as you wish w/ GM and Corvette, but they are trying to build the best car, and said to hell with tradition and did it.
This has been the case for Porsche for a long time. The 1986-89 4 cylinder 951 was a far more capable car than the 911. It was cheaper and Porsche would not let it surpass the 911 N/A performance.
This post was edited on 10/4/21 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 10/4/21 at 5:50 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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why do americans hate sedans and coupes so much lately?
The people actually buying them are old and fat. The median age of a new car buyer in the US is something like 52 years old.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 5:52 pm to just1dawg
quote:had not considered this part... adds up
The people actually buying them are old and fat
Posted on 10/4/21 at 6:00 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
My wife wants something bigger than a car. She looked at Cayennes for awhile, and now she wants a Land Rover Discovery. I'd rather the Porsche.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 6:42 pm to Obtuse1
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Porsche Panamera Turbo S N-ring time: 7:29.81
Corvette C8 Z51 N-ring time 7:29.90
Still can't do it... Sure it's fast, but it's still a station wagon at the end of the day.
It's like bragging you hooked up with "small" chick at a Pig Party.
I can't....
Posted on 10/4/21 at 6:44 pm to dewster
That Cadillac and Mercedes station wagons look like hearses.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 6:51 pm to Dragula
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Still can't do it... Sure it's fast, but it's still a station wagon at the end of the day.
I get it, I have always loved the idea of a super sleeper but wouldn't want one as a daily unless I had a couple of rugrats that required it. If I did that P-car would be my choice or if I needed a little more cargo space a Cayenne Turbo S or an X5M.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 6:54 pm to ThePoo
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Macan is porsche's cheapest vehicle
And it’s still a damned nice ride.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 7:12 pm to JetsetNuggs
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I'd love to see a chart breaking down the SUV drivers.
My non-scientific observation says it's blonde white women
I'm a 30-something guy and currently have a Macan GTS. Lease is up soon and I have a 911 in production, so I guess that'll be one less guy driving a Porsche SUV. But the SUV made sense for me as I live in an area where it snows semi-frequently in the winter. Having a 911 as my only car should be interesting. I've heard the all-wheel drive model isn't too bad in the snow with Winter tires, so I guess I'll find out!
This post was edited on 10/4/21 at 7:13 pm
Posted on 10/4/21 at 7:16 pm to LSUSkip
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She looked at Cayennes for awhile, and now she wants a Land Rover Discovery. I'd rather the Porsche.
I really like the Cayenne Coupe. I'd be curious to know whether it sells better than the regular Cayenne.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 7:19 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
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Having a 911 as my only car should be interesting. I've heard the all-wheel drive model isn't too bad in the snow with Winter tires, so I guess I'll find out!
Wait until there is a nice dry evening snow that drops 3-4" and drive to a large parking lot where it has large virgin areas and go wild. It is the most fun my wife and I have ever had in a car, we used to do it when we lived in VA but I never take summer tires off now in SC. Even SUVs can be a blast.
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