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re: Pizza Delivery Fee
Posted on 8/26/18 at 9:48 pm to Donkeypunch
Posted on 8/26/18 at 9:48 pm to Donkeypunch
I’m finna order a pizza. Mrs Donkeypunch is invited
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 10:03 pm to GetBackToWork
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You clearly don't catch sarcasm. It's not like we don't have a pizza fee/tip question every few days.
Ah my apologies
Posted on 8/27/18 at 12:08 am to tLSU
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You aren't paying the delivery fee when you eat in or pick up.
The level of intellect on this board is staggering.
The real problem is that most of you people are too young to know that Pizza Hut, Domino's, Papa John's and every other damned pizza place delivered without a fee for about 30 years.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:18 am to Peazey
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Domino's has charged a pizza delivery fee for as long as I remember. A lot of smaller shops don't charge one. The money doesn't go directly to the drivers.
Domino's added it in 2004ish. Give or take a couple of years.
Driver compensation did not change when it was added. The cost of delivery was already factored into the cost of delivered pizzas, but restaurant margins are not particularly high, especially on delivered food, so they decided to increase those margins.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 3:04 am to Donkeypunch
The people being down voted while being right in the first few posts is hilarious.
I've worked for Pizza Hut, Papa John's, and 2 local pizza places. All 4 have delivery fees, all 4 kept more than half of said for the business.
I've worked for Pizza Hut, Papa John's, and 2 local pizza places. All 4 have delivery fees, all 4 kept more than half of said for the business.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 4:06 am to Donkeypunch
The delivery fee is to price out a percentage of the casual pizza orderers from ordering delivery. You are paying a premium for delivery service, in turn you get your order faster than if there were no fee and every other person also ordered delivery.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 5:47 am to Donkeypunch
I don't think there was ever a time that the cost of delivering your pizza was "free". When it was free the cost was merely hidden in the cost of the purchase. Now that pizza competition is so high the chains advertise for super cheap pizza but tack on the cost of delivery.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 6:15 am to tLSU
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You aren't paying the delivery fee when you eat in or pick up.
The level of intellect on this board is staggering.
Agreed. I'm beginning to really have some doubts about the number of OT ballers on this board......
Posted on 8/27/18 at 6:48 am to S1C EM
you guys need a hole in the wall Italian place by your house. I picked up pizza last night, cheap and no fees or tips. Havent had a pizza delivered to my house since ive lived here in 5 years.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 6:51 am to S1C EM
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I'm beginning to really have some doubts about the number of OT ballers on this board....
No shite
Don’t tip
Bitch about a $2 delivery fee
Buy used beater vehicles
Can’t afford kids college
Can’t pay for daughters wedding
Anything I’m forgetting?
Posted on 8/27/18 at 6:52 am to PrivatePublic
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That said, drivers usually make minimum wage, so they don't really live on tips like servers do.
Unless you have a link to correct me, this is completely incorrect. Drivers make less than minimum wage because they are expected to get paid in tips. Just like waiters/waitresses and bartenders.
They get paid about a dollar per delivery which is meant to cover gas and wear and tear on the car.
You are correct about the money grab part. The company could just raise prices on the pizza instead of charging a delivery fee.
We all know why they don’t.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 7:55 am to Merck
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The real problem is that most of you people are too young to know that Pizza Hut, Domino's, Papa John's and every other damned pizza place delivered without a fee for about 30 years.
:kige:
Pizza Hut started as a eat in but Dominoes and then Papa Johns built their business model on delivery only pizza. If memory serves the 80's Dominoes business was
95% Delivery (drivers got 6% to 12% commission + tips + bonus)
5% Carry out
0% Eat in
Not only was their no delivery fee but you got it in 20 mins or it was free. Now it seems you are lucky to get a pie from most places in an hour or two.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 8:00 am to Cheese Grits
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Just say a pizza is x dollars, not x dollars + fee + fee + fee
They do. For the pizza your order to be picked up like you would any other food.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 8:00 am to Cheese Grits
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Just say a pizza is x dollars, not x dollars + fee + fee + fee
Well, you're adding a service by getting it delivered. The pizza is $x, and the additional service (delivery) is $y. Do yall really not get this?
Posted on 8/27/18 at 8:07 am to GeauxDoc
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I don't think there was ever a time that the cost of delivering your pizza was "free". When it was free the cost was merely hidden in the cost of the purchase.
Not exactly
In the early days of delivery only pizza companies, the cost of pizza was greatly reduced by eliminating eat in.
Delivery meant :
Less square footage for store, so less cost for space
Less liability chances for "slip and fall" popular in the 1970's
Less heating and cooling cost for less space
Less cost for dead space in "off peak" hours
Less cost for labor (no dishwashers, no servers, no cashiers)
Less cost for facilities (no public space like bathrooms to maintain 24 / 7)
Less cost for delivery labor (beepers for "on call" at 1.00 per hour)
Less cost for location (off the main drag at 1/2 or 2/3 the price)
No cost for fixtures and furniture for eat in customers
In the beginning of Dominoes you could not get a franchise until you had worked your way up (no buy in only ownership) so to make it possible for folks of less means you had to make the cost of franchises much less so they could afford them. Eliminating the high cost of "eat in" dropped a franchise (in 1980 dollars) from say 100K to 10K.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 8:08 am to Donkeypunch
You could just be smart enough to only order pizza on your way home from some where. Or just go pick it up. I haven't had delivery as an option for 7 years plus. I don't ever want pizza enough or feel too lazy to where I can't just cook something.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 8:11 am to Cheese Grits
quote:quote:
I don't think there was ever a time that the cost of delivering your pizza was "free". When it was free the cost was merely hidden in the cost of the purchase.
Not exactly
I mean, yes exactly.
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In the early days of delivery only pizza companies, the cost of pizza was greatly reduced by eliminating eat in.
So you think they made a business model based solely on delivery and didn't consider the cost to provide delivery in their price?
I really hope you don't operate a business.Posted on 8/27/18 at 8:11 am to S1C EM
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Agreed. I'm beginning to really have some doubts about the number of OT ballers on this board..
You don't have to be smart to work 80 hours a week as an operator. Why do you think they order so many pizzas?
Posted on 8/27/18 at 8:13 am to alajones
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Unless you have a link to correct me, this is completely incorrect. Drivers make less than minimum wage because they are expected to get paid in tips. Just like waiters/waitresses and bartenders.
This is a stupid argument in every tipping thread. All workers are required to make at least minimum wage. If a server or whatever doesn't make minimum wage after tips the business must make up the difference. That may not be a good way to keep your job, but every single employee at every single business is entitled to minimum wage.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 8:16 am to LNCHBOX
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Do yall really not get this?
I get what you think it is but being old (and knowing the model was different) and actually knowing many who grew in the pizza business from the 70's to the 90's you are wrong.
A similar model was non Big 3 TV (ABC + NBC + CBS) and the shift of revenue streams for greedy corporations.
In the old days you had the Big 3 and they were free because they made all their money off advertising and none off the viewers.
Along came pay TV like HBO and such and you got commercial free TV but you had to pay for it.
2 distinct business models (one free and one charged)
However, over time, pay TV (cable, satellite, and now internet) not only charged the consumer but made money from advertisements. Younger generation just accepted this instead of dropping and forcing them to return to their roots. In essence they can now have their cake and eat it too.
Pizza delivery fees, bank fees, hidden taxes on your bills (sometimes 20% to 25% of the bill) are all the move by corporate America to give less real service and increase revenue at the same time.
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