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re: Pick one -- In the woods near large Grizzly or in the water near large Croc/Gator

Posted on 6/8/17 at 1:56 pm to
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 1:56 pm to
Is this really a debate?

The grizzly would skin you alive.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 1:57 pm to
Depends in the location. I've been within a few feet of very large griz in Glacier but they are hazed so generally gtfo when they smell (then hear/see) people. In the water with a gator would be much scarier to me.

But in Alaska, spooking a griz esp w cubs, and I'd take the gator.
Posted by Macfly
BR & DS
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 1:57 pm to
Gator first. Can't out run or out climb a bear.
Both are not good situations.
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19448 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:03 pm to
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Gator first. Can't out run or out climb a bear


Yeah. Once I was driving on a road in the sierras and came across a black bear in the road. Dude looked right at my truck, then disappeared up the side of the mountain before I even had a chance to comprehend what I was seeing. Bears are unbelievably fast.
Posted by LSUgirl4
Member since Sep 2009
39501 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:06 pm to
alligator. easy.
i have no idea how i'd beat it. climb up something, i guess. which isn't beating it, i suppose.

but a bear... shite no.

quote:

Never run from a bear: A bear can run 50 yards in 3 seconds, or up to 40 mph, faster than a race horse for short distances, and faster than any human, uphill or downhill. Running away will only encourage the bear to chase you.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:11 pm to
Gator easy. If you had to fight to get away from a grizzly you have no chance. Other than the fact maybe he just isn't hungry or wants to kill you. With a gator I know the odds are slim but if you could hit him between the eyes you could knock him out.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:12 pm to
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You're dead either way. Grizzlies kill their prey before eating them. Gators and crocs eat them alive. Also, the grizzly won't eat you if he's not hungry. Crocs will.


Gators are cold blooded animals that just lay around in the sun and water all day. They don't need to eat constantly.

Bears spend their whole fricking day looking for food, especially Grizzlies. They want to be fat come winter. They eat in extreme excess if their environment allows them to. A gator only needs a chicken once a week to live. A Grizzly eats 90 pounds of food per day.

Plus there's a difference between crocs and gators.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:14 pm to
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jump in hoping the bear won't be able to swim.


I've seen both Brown and black swim. Had to fend off a black bear the other day. Brown bears swim between the islands here and I've seen them overtake deer in the water.


Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:17 pm to
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I'll take the bear and then run to the nearest lake/body of water and jump in hoping the bear won't be able to swim.


That's like jumping into a tree running away from a Leopard. Bears (particularly Polar) are among the best swimmers in the mammal class (save for whales, seals, otters, and beavers).

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This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 2:17 pm
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45198 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:17 pm to
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Had to fend off a black bear the other day.
Describe the happenings please.
Posted by X123F45
Dictated not Read
Member since Apr 2015
30035 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:22 pm to
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Lmao

0% chance


And that's what people don't get. That lumbering oafish 450lb bear... He can run a 40 faster than an NFL cornerback. He can run the 100 faster than usain Bolt.

Not fricking with a bear.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:29 pm to
I think the only chance against a grizzly would be to try and keep a tree between it and you. While they are far faster in a straight line, I wouldn't think grizzlies have much lateral quickness or endurance to keep up with a human. Just keep side-stepping keeping the tree in front until it's too tired or bored to continue chasing you.

That or play dead are really your only options.

Idk how I'd even begin to evade a gator while in the water.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:34 pm to
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Describe the happenings please.





Young humpback was in the area and we were rowing up to get pix. This swimming bear cruised up to get a closer look.

Their eyesight sucks. If you run, they may pursue just to going out what you are.
Posted by SamuelClemens
Earth
Member since Feb 2015
11727 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:35 pm to
I'd choose neither. However, having grown up swimming in the Atchafalaya Basin as a child, we swam above aligators all the time. Crocodiles, they are a more aggressive species.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:36 pm to
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That lumbering oafish 450lb bear.


They can grow to 1500 lbs around here.
Posted by SamuelClemens
Earth
Member since Feb 2015
11727 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:36 pm to
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Idk how I'd even begin to evade a gator while in the water.


People do it everyday. They stay down in the mud and hate the splashing of kids swimming and move along on their own.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:40 pm to
True. OP should have said Grizzly or Crocodile.
Posted by X123F45
Dictated not Read
Member since Apr 2015
30035 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:42 pm to
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With a gator I know the odds are slim but if you could hit him between the eyes you could knock him out.


No.

For personal reference, you have to punch them in the back of the head to knock them out.

Eta: I've seen it once. The guy who did it was built like a gorilla and the think had been shot and knocked out. It came to AFTER we got it in the boat.

He KITFO.
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 2:44 pm
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