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re: PhD grads vastly outnumber jobs in academia

Posted on 6/24/25 at 7:12 am to
Posted by Saint Leeo
Member since Dec 2022
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Posted on 6/24/25 at 7:12 am to
that's because most degrees are useless to the job market.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
5626 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 7:23 am to
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PhD grads vastly outnumber jobs in academia

Glad we keep importing people to increase these numbers, and fricking over our native Americans.

Sadly he won't, but really wish Trump would see the light on how damaging importing students and cheap white collar workers is for our future.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 6/24/25 at 7:28 am to
They give out PhDs like candy. Never impressed when someone has this in their title.

Until I know what it’s in that is.
This post was edited on 6/24/25 at 7:34 am
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12167 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 7:31 am to
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Very well. Even if not directly based off of tuition raised (most PhDs get tuition waivers), they’re critical for exploiting the research grant system. Which is VERY profitable. And is why there is such an over abundance of them.
That explains STEM and social sciences but not the humanities.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36282 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 7:36 am to
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I actually remember my first day in 1st grade. When I got home, my mother asked me how it was, and I said it was OK. Then she told me I had to get to bed early so I could get up in the morning for school. I said, "What, again?"


The entire year of kindergarten didn’t help you figure that out? You probably struggled that year, and every one subsequent too
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
135376 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 7:51 am to
Most are still silly degrees that have no real world application
Posted by Unobtanium
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
1851 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 8:05 am to
Here's another one:

- Plaquemine High Diploma
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
27061 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 8:07 am to
A lot of post grad higher ed is training/teaching someone to train and teach the next sucker. It is mind-boggling.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62205 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 8:08 am to
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Lol getting your phd makes you a better person?


You tell him. You don’t need none of that dere book lernin!
Posted by SpqrTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
9617 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 8:08 am to
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Lol getting your phd makes you a better person?


In fact it does. For instance, now I’m educated enough to recognize that you calling me a self-righteous twat is an expression of your own self-loathing.

Get some help.
Posted by N2cars
Close by
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/24/25 at 8:10 am to
And yet, PhD unemployment is well below 2%, actually closer to 1%.
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
4424 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 8:13 am to
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Ph.D’s already know this going into their studies. Anyone that pretends they were shocked to find out you aren’t automatically gifted a job in academia when you get a Ph.D is lying to you or shifting blame due to regret.


They have to know. The pyramid has grown high and fast. It used to be free tuition in exchange for slave labor as a teacher’s assistant, and you’d ultimately put in your time and get tenure.

Now, you have an army of phd students to satisfy schools need to teach 30k students, with another 30k online.

Looking at the UC system is like viewing PhD purgatory. They have “instructors” unions, which is nothing more than a legion of academics that don’t have any path to professional advancement, yet aLao aren’t suited or qualified to transition to primary or secondary schools.
Posted by Locoguan0
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2017
6898 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 8:17 am to
I work with four people with a PhD. in education from Southern. Horrible educators. That place is just a diploma mill.
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
7582 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 9:15 am to
Some of the saddest people I have ever met were the post docs working at

the labs at Los Alamos. They were in in a type of limbo land purgatory of having met all the requirements to be a physics professor but could not be one until a spot opened up for them. At that time universities would limit the number of positions of physics professors.

I was an engineer there and that did not apply to me. These guys had spent 8 years in college and were making less than me.
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
18728 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 9:17 am to
I'm in the final year of my PhD.

The odds of getting a legitimate professorship is like trying to get into the NFL.
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
18728 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 9:18 am to
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Some of the saddest people I have ever met were the post docs working at

the labs at Los Alamos.

There's an unspoken rule that people "should" cut their teeth at the national labs. Of course its bullshite though.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5472 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 9:19 am to
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And yet, PhD unemployment is well below 2%, actually closer to 1%.


That’s just because they call it a sabbatical when you have a PhD.
Posted by Piebald Panther
Member since Aug 2020
611 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 9:20 am to
The ones I'm familiar with are PhD in the sciences. The issue is that they rarely go outside of their own institution for review, which is intentional, and therefore don't get the necessary critiques or learn what it is to defend the work.

Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62492 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 9:20 am to
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PhD grads vastly outnumber jobs in academia
It's crazy how many people have advanced degrees that do nothing but quality them to teach others how to get the degree they just got.

Worlds biggest ponzi scheme.
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
7238 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 9:21 am to
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There are a particular type of historically established schools that like to pump out the “doctors” and they end up teaching in grade schools. Getting a PhD to teach at grade schools is asinine


Had a high school teacher who did just that.

He lived for school. Effing LOVED it. Made decent scratch as a HS teacher, but he had at least two PhDs, and was working on a third.
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