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re: Part of the new Hard Rock Hotel collapses (NOLA) 3 dead, Cranes Down-ish
Posted on 10/19/19 at 9:18 am to MrLarson
Posted on 10/19/19 at 9:18 am to MrLarson
It’s going to be interesting to see which party is liable for damage that may occur during the crane demolition.
Is this being coordinated by Citadel or City of New Orleans?
Is this being coordinated by Citadel or City of New Orleans?
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Posted on 10/19/19 at 9:18 am to Swagga
Cops told my GF this morning they are doing controlled explosions. I'm assuming it's on this building? What a shite show.
Posted on 10/19/19 at 9:18 am to BuckyCheese
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Someone tell me why they couldn't bring in a couple big hydraulic cranes to take those things down?
Because that involves iron workers climbing all over the damaged crane to unbolt the pieces and attach them to the assist crane. Way too dangerous.
Posted on 10/19/19 at 9:23 am to BuckyCheese
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How do you think they put it up?
The last one I built sat on 3' compacted limestone pad, topped with a double layer of 30'x 4' timber mats with 2 80' runners under tracks to get the GBP below 1200 for starters. Then it was 80-90 trucks of components, with 2 cranes doing the build. Not saying it couldn't be done, it would be a pita to do it and take a while. Just looking at lift plan, the super lift had a 75' slew radius so I really don't know if there'd be space to swing it.
Posted on 10/19/19 at 9:25 am to Gatorbait2008
Where have you been? We’ve been taking about this for three days. It’s just to get the cranes down
Posted on 10/19/19 at 9:29 am to Swagga
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But for fricks sake Mitch landrieu would have turned this into a nuclear disaster
Taking things down is his only talent. He'd be fine.
He'd just overpay for it.
Posted on 10/19/19 at 9:29 am to 4LSU2
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Is this being coordinated by Citadel or City of New Orleans?
a very interesting question with regard to how much control citadel now has over their own jobsite. And also, somebody owns those cranes...is that party involved at all?
And who is paying the bill for all this engineering?
Posted on 10/19/19 at 9:34 am to cgrand
Another expense that I’m sure is adding up in a hurry is the NOPD and NOFD. Lots of overtime for sure. NOPD had officers all over downtown manning road blocks and directing traffic.
This post was edited on 10/19/19 at 9:39 am
Posted on 10/19/19 at 9:36 am to 4LSU2
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Is this being coordinated by Citadel or City of New Orleans?
You can be sure Citadel is not being allowed near the site. With the pending lawsuits/investigation they are not being given access to anything. Even their job site office has been seized of documents/computers.
I believe the city is coordinating with Morrow, the owners of the crane.
Posted on 10/19/19 at 9:36 am to cgrand
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very interesting question with regard to how much control citadel now has over their own jobsite. And also, somebody owns those cranes...is that party involved at all?
After we heard the city confiscated all the jobsite documentation, I believe Citadel has 0% control over this (at least until the cranes are down and the body is pulled out). City is treating this like a disaster scene
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And who is paying the bill for all this engineering?
In the short term I believe the city. In the long term, Citadel, Kailas, Engineer, Subs and all associates insurance and sureties
Posted on 10/19/19 at 9:38 am to cgrand
It looks like it’s going to be a subrogation clusterfrick
Posted on 10/19/19 at 9:45 am to Gatorbait2008
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Cops told my GF this morning they are doing controlled explosions. I'm assuming it's on this building? What a shite show.
Nah that’s just a coincidence
Posted on 10/19/19 at 9:45 am to Zach Lee To Amp Hill
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he could always just make it a low cost grocery store and use his private security force that he funds to keep the peace. but frick them poor people let them eat trash
Or he cold make his own decisions on how to spend his money without consulting morons like you. decisions based on market research and best ROI. frick off socialist.
Posted on 10/19/19 at 9:51 am to 4LSU2
let’s say they did do all the engineering and whatnot to bring the cranes down without input or agreement from citadel. And let’s say it doesn’t go well and causes further damage
If you were citadel (and their lawyers), wouldn’t you then take the position that the damage and liability for that damage falls on others?
If you were citadel (and their lawyers), wouldn’t you then take the position that the damage and liability for that damage falls on others?
Posted on 10/19/19 at 9:52 am to BuckyCheese
The tower crane?
Theres some good youtube videos on it.
Theres some good youtube videos on it.
Posted on 10/19/19 at 9:54 am to CHEDBALLZ
They still planning on high noon detonation?
Posted on 10/19/19 at 9:56 am to cgrand
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let’s say they did do all the engineering and whatnot to bring the cranes down without input or agreement from citadel. And let’s say it doesn’t go well and causes further damage If you were citadel (and their lawyers), wouldn’t you then take the position that the damage and liability for that damage falls on others?
I’ve thought about this and I think they will make this argument regardless. However I think their only argument could be they could have saved the parking garage podium but the City will have a long line of engineers lining up to testify that would have never been possible
That’s not even discussing the issue that Hard Rock could walk away from this thing completely
Posted on 10/19/19 at 10:00 am to tk for tu juan
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Any crawler crane with enough boom length and capacity to dissemble that tower crane would take about a week to assemble in place before it could lift anything, and that would be after being delivered to the site on about 100 different truck loads. Convincing the current construction company using the crane to lose one to two months of work would also be difficult.
Well, if that's the only option, so be it. Cant leav em up.
Posted on 10/19/19 at 10:01 am to jamboybarry
Could? Likely will.
Posted on 10/19/19 at 10:04 am to Ed Osteen
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So am I wrong? I’m not watching a 33 minute YouTube video
You have to at least watch at 10:25 when a bird shows up to supervise the work
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