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re: Part of the new Hard Rock Hotel collapses (NOLA) 3 dead, Cranes Down-ish

Posted on 10/19/19 at 10:40 am to
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 10/19/19 at 10:40 am to
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Hard Rock owns the site and hired the contractors. They absolutely have liability.


False. They do not own the site. The Kailas own the property through 1031 Canal LLC.
Posted by PassionateTiger1990
WestBank
Member since Oct 2019
25 posts
Posted on 10/19/19 at 10:45 am to
Kailas along with the other 1301 canal street development llc own the property
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 10/19/19 at 10:45 am to
DAmn: A lot of lurking going on in this thread.
Posted by PassionateTiger1990
WestBank
Member since Oct 2019
25 posts
Posted on 10/19/19 at 10:47 am to
"Praveen Kailas and his brother Naveen are no longer partners in the development, known as 1031 Canal Development LLC. It’s a partnership between Mohan Kailas; Denzel Clark, president of the prime contractor on the project, Citadel Builders; and Todd Trosclair of All-Star Electric."

LINK
This post was edited on 10/19/19 at 10:49 am
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 10/19/19 at 10:52 am to
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DAmn: A lot of lurking going on in this thread


Lots of downvoting going on, too. Gotta wonder who those people are
Posted by PassionateTiger1990
WestBank
Member since Oct 2019
25 posts
Posted on 10/19/19 at 10:52 am to
You think Brian Trascher has heard of tigerdroppings yet? Maybe thats where the downvotes are coming from haha.
Posted by tk for tu juan
Houston
Member since Mar 2019
829 posts
Posted on 10/19/19 at 10:55 am to
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It’s a partnership between Mohan Kailas; Denzel Clark, president of the prime contractor on the project, Citadel Builders; and Todd Trosclair of All-Star Electric."

I'm use to public construction contracts, forgot about the private development aspect of this.
Posted by PassionateTiger1990
WestBank
Member since Oct 2019
25 posts
Posted on 10/19/19 at 10:57 am to
Probably the same guys who used this FEMA bloke as a patsy. I am telling you the rabbit trail on this thing goes all the way to China (Puerto Rico).
FEMA official arrested in fraud over Puerto Rico relief
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
32074 posts
Posted on 10/19/19 at 11:02 am to
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a very interesting question with regard to how much control citadel now has over their own jobsite


Zero until the place is not hazardous to the public.
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 10/19/19 at 11:04 am to
quote:

quote:
It’s a partnership between Mohan Kailas; Denzel Clark, president of the prime contractor on the project, Citadel Builders; and Todd Trosclair of All-Star Electric."

I'm use to public construction contracts, forgot about the private development aspect of this.




Go on Louisiana SOS Corporate database and look up companies associated with the Kailas family. They use shell companies and loans back and forth and other games to shield assets (As well as for tax purposes.) It would take years to unravel and by that time the money will probably be gone. I feel bad for SOME of the other partners because they are going to lose everything due to decisions they may not have been aware

https://coraweb.sos.la.gov/commercialsearch/commercialsearch.aspx

And only in New Orleans do you allow a family to keep a project such as this and grant them these kind of waivers.

https://www.wwltv.com/article/news/local/orleans/hard-rock-developer-had-troubled-past-exposed-by-wwl/289-834e15ba-3a60-4dff-9bbf-648d400565c5
This post was edited on 10/19/19 at 11:09 am
Posted by PassionateTiger1990
WestBank
Member since Oct 2019
25 posts
Posted on 10/19/19 at 11:07 am to
Right on. They are going to first try and pin everything on the engineers and if that does not work, expect Kailas to attempt to crawfish and leave everyone else in the smoke.
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
23255 posts
Posted on 10/19/19 at 11:09 am to
What time they dropping the cranes?
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
49101 posts
Posted on 10/19/19 at 11:09 am to
if you (citadel and the electrician) don’t know who you are going into business with, that’s on you. And that’s just for contracting purposes not even considering the partnership in the LLC

this project is 90% FUBAR at 11am today. The other 10% is pending the crane demo
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
49101 posts
Posted on 10/19/19 at 11:18 am to
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Citadel is probably going to be released from the job,

if I’m citadel that’s the best possible outcome at this juncture. Their lawyers (if they are good) are going to want to demarcate the line where their liability starts and most importantly, stops.

regardless of their culpability in the failure and subsequent deaths/injuries, if they are excluded from the site now, it opens up for them plausible exclusion from the liability for activities at the site once that happens.

it’s a fricked up situation all the way around
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104107 posts
Posted on 10/19/19 at 11:20 am to
My wife has the mayor’s presser on right now.

I swear I am getting dumber just by listening to this woman.
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
23255 posts
Posted on 10/19/19 at 11:26 am to
IDK, mobile crane on site needs to be tore down and he has it stocked out. Take at least a half hour to get it out the way.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61724 posts
Posted on 10/19/19 at 11:30 am to
Now the city just cancelled the Krewe of Boo parade for tonight.
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13674 posts
Posted on 10/19/19 at 11:30 am to
They're bringing the basket down now.
Posted by OldHickory
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2012
10822 posts
Posted on 10/19/19 at 11:30 am to
Latoya is an idiot.
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
32074 posts
Posted on 10/19/19 at 11:31 am to
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Now the city just cancelled the Krewe of Boo parade for tonight


This city is a shite show.
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