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re: Parent blaming and shaming

Posted on 6/16/16 at 11:56 am to
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
17165 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 11:56 am to
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It's hilarious that you say that when you stepped right into an OP that called out this new breed of helicopter holier than thou parent blamers. And then you provided your helicopter holier than thou parent blaming opinions. So it sounds like you are the sniveling liberal helicopter parent unleashing your helpless entitled snowflakes on our society. Congratulations.


You have a right to your opinion. But I will add by posting it here you prove how ignorant you are because your entire post is based in you emotional assumptions. Assumptions that are nowhere near the truth. Again you have no factual argument so you do what liberals do, let your emotions overcome your logic and lash out in a feeble attempt to hurt the feeling of who you are arguing with instead of countering the argument.

It is not my opinion that the child died while in the care of two people that by right of morality and law were charged with safeguarding him. Thats is fact. Now I will relent that it is my opinion that the death was preventable, but that opinion is grounded in a few solid facts not the least of which was that the parents were not paying close enough attention to the child in a dangerous situation.

But I grow tired of reading your emotional tantrums in response so this will be my last visit to this thread.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74875 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:00 pm to
I agree 2 and 3 year olds are next to impossible to watch. They can be there one second and break off into a full sprint the next.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17816 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:00 pm to
You do realize the dad tried to wrestle with the gator, correct.

Also, there is literally nothing you can do. On land a gator is faster, in water its not even close. A gator is much stronger, especially in water. But yea the dads a total pussy for not possessig the ability to turn into Incredible Hulk
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74875 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:01 pm to
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If you're not holding a 2 year old or holding the hand of a 2 year old near water they are unsupervised.

Posted by Argonaut
Member since Nov 2015
2059 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:02 pm to
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I swam in way worse places than that as a kid

I mean...way worse


I did, too. But we don't get a lot of alligators in New York.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17816 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:04 pm to
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m gonna go on ahead and go out on a limb and say that the kid in the picture is pretty easy to see clearly, which wasn't the case with the other kid.


That makes literally no difference, rather you Can see him clearly or not. That kid and literally anyone else who steps to close to that shoreline was at the same anount of risk of being gator bait.
Posted by SirSaintly
Uptown, New Orleans
Member since Feb 2013
3187 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:05 pm to
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that is different from every other report that I read


Well it's straight from the local Orlando paper. Think I'd trust that over CNN or some news source based somewhere other than Orlando.
This post was edited on 6/16/16 at 12:12 pm
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
132620 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:06 pm to
The first alligator attack in the history of Disneyworld and now apparently there is an epidemic of alligators eating people according to this story.

Our society overreacts to fricking everything.

And when something bad happens, we cant just accept that bad things happen occasionally. It has to be somebody's fault. Somebody must take the blame.

Posted by Argonaut
Member since Nov 2015
2059 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:12 pm to
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Do you have kids? Do they ever get within a couple feet from you?


No, I don't have kids. I'm sure that if I did they'd eventually get a few feet away from me. I might even be the next news story. I don't know how it would go, and neither do you.

What I do know is that just from looking at that water and from the extremely limited knowledge I have of alligators in Florida, my two year old wouldn't be splashing in the water alone at night. I don't care if it's two feet or two miles.
Posted by SirSaintly
Uptown, New Orleans
Member since Feb 2013
3187 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:14 pm to
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The first alligator attack in the history of Disneyworld


Not true

quote:

Lane's death marks the first alligator attack on the park's property since a predator bit the legs of an 8-year-old boy, who survived, on Disney's Fort Wilderness campground in 1986. 


First attack in a long arse time though
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:26 pm to
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You are not a parent, so you don't know shite about parenting so have a big glass of STFU.


Considering I already stated I'm not a parent in my OP, never claimed I was knowing "shite about parenting".... and in my profession I actually do care for children everyday and see all the bad things that can happen to them and care for them in the aftermath ......why don't you go frick yourself.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23211 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:31 pm to
After the gorilla incident, the next time I went to the Audubon zoo I surveyed the habitat on whether or not my 3 yr old could make it in there and if so how fast.

The gorilla enclosure has a two crossbeam wooden fence that my kid could easily climb through or under. Next was about a 7' deep area of shrubs then about a 3.5/4' Rock wall. I figured my kid could pretty easily navigate that. Next was a 15-20 drop to the water that surrounded the inside of the habitat. I guesstimated the water was a few feet deep.

Long story short, I figured my kid could get into the habitat in less than a minute. Could he survive the fall? I would think he could but probably would have to be rescued quickly. That being said, this incident could have happened to any parent especially one who had to watch multiple children.
Posted by Taurus
Loozianna
Member since Feb 2015
4955 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:35 pm to
Awww, don't be mad. You are posting a FB feed and agree with it. Think about that for a second. Please don't become a parent.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74875 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:37 pm to
Yeah, we used to swim in the spillway and see water moccasins and alligators and the adults would say. "They won't bother you if you splash"

Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74875 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:38 pm to
two alligator attacks in thirty years and people are acting like it's a death trap. It's an extremely rare occurrence and a sad situation.
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
10432 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:40 pm to
I agree that accidents do happen and we can't condemn parents for everything that happens.

But there are some places, such as the Zoo, or marshes in Florida, where you have to pay extra attention because your kid is in extra danger if they aren't watched. No excuse IMO.

That said, I won't condemn the parents. They've lost a child; they need grieving time. I just don't think they're completely free of blame.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74875 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:41 pm to
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we cant just accept that bad things happen occasionally. It has to be somebody's fault. Somebody must take the blame.



This, what if th kid where struck by lightning, would they sue Disney then for not having enough lightning rods?

This is a freak thing here. No one at fault.
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
10432 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:44 pm to
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You are not a parent, so you don't know shite about parenting so have a big glass of STFU.


That's funny. are you a helicopter pilot?

Me neither. But if I saw one up a fricking tree I'm pretty sure I could know for sure that someone fricked up.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9582 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:45 pm to
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I didn't do shite as a kid without my parents being right there. I couldn't even ride my bike around the block alone until I was 12. They were the same way with my sister. We hated it, but we "get it" now.


And if you would ve been kidnapped some dipshit would've said your parent should waited until he was 13 to let you ride by yourself. My parents did not let me ride past my block until I was 10 but would never let me swim in False River. Were they shitty parents? There is no rule book and what happened at Disney was not obvious neglect.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16797 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:56 pm to
I remember baby Jessica pretty clearly. Everyone was questioning the shite out of it. That shite was on TV non stop.
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