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re: Parent blaming and shaming

Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:50 am to
Posted by Polycarp
Texas
Member since Feb 2009
5757 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:50 am to
As a parent of three, whom most are in adulthood, it does make me angry when small kids die as a result of poor decisions made my their parents. Once a lady tried to cross the interstate here in The Woodlands carrying her 3 yr old, didn't make it. I do know how fast a 2-3 yr old can get away from you, and the gorilla thing I am not that mad about, other than the gorilla being put down. The most recent, there were a lot of flags that were ignored. I won't judge them, they will have to live with their actions for the rest of their life, and second guess themselves often.
Posted by Isabelle81
NEW ORLEANS, LA
Member since Sep 2015
2718 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:56 am to
Very sorry and feel the grief when others lose a child, as I also lost my son 12 years ago. In many cases, parents are not as vigilant as they used to be. There are many who think it's ok to let others keep an eye on their child while they have a good time. Trust me, my grown daughter is this type of parent and I have ripped her a new one many times over this, but nothing changes. She just giggles. One of these days ...
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18919 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:15 am to
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Don't let them wander close to water without you.


It happened right in front of his parents. How can you be so small minded?
This post was edited on 6/16/16 at 10:16 am
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87735 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:21 am to
Social mores are a huge deterrent/motivator. While I have no personal interest in shaming parents for simple mistakes, the concept of eliminating pretty natural responses (judging, questioning, discussion) can be problematic, IMO.

We want people, I think, to be horrified at the thought of how society would condemn them for leaving a kid in the car. Most of us don't care much about condemnation when it comes to the real ramifications of such a mistake, but not everyone is like us. Plenty of parents suck. Plenty of people are stupid and irresponsible and really might be motivated more out of what other people will think of them than of their child's well being, at least on the front end.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
91088 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:23 am to
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Listen to me very clearly perfect parents, VERY CLEARLY.

I’VE HAD ENOUGH.


we dun done it now
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Member since Oct 2014
45349 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:26 am to
What would old people do without Facebook, seriously?

So glad I deleted my account like five years ago. Don't have to see 30-40-years-olds complaining about shite every other day.
Posted by SirSaintly
Uptown, New Orleans
Member since Feb 2013
3187 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:38 am to
Not to blame those parents, but the kid was wading in the dark water at night. Signs all around that said no swimming. No one else was in the water. If parents had listened to the sign, that kid is still alive. The alligator didn't come up on beach and snatch the kid.
Terrible tragedy all around, but those signs were there for a reason and no one else was in the water.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:39 am to
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No one else was in the water. If parents had listened to the sign, that kid is still alive. The alligator didn't come up on beach and snatch the kid. Terrible tragedy all around, but those signs were there for a reason and no one else was in the water.



Some woman actually posted pics of her toddler wading in that same area that very day.


Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:44 am to
Victim blaming is an interesting phenomenon. This stems from our innate desire for life to be predictable. We believe that good things happen to good people and bad things happen to bad people. In this way, we avoid feeling vulnerable. Our psyches can't handle the idea that misfortunes are often random, and that we could be the next victim through no fault of our own.

Thus, we continue believing that the victim should have saw it coming and prevented it from happening.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:46 am to
quote:

"well where were the parents at?"



...Look where it's at. NOW it's a tragedy, NOW it's so sad to see, an upper class city...

Posted by SirSaintly
Uptown, New Orleans
Member since Feb 2013
3187 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 11:14 am to
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that same area that very day.


During the day though(still a stupid decision) but at least you can see. It wasn't at 9pm at night in the dark.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86692 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 11:16 am to
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During the day though(still a stupid decision) but at least you can see. It wasn't at 9pm at night in the dark.


this picture was apparently taken about an hour before

Posted by McCaigBro69
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Member since Oct 2014
45349 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 11:19 am to
I'm gonna go on ahead and go out on a limb and say that the kid in the picture is pretty easy to see clearly, which wasn't the case with the other kid.

That makes a huge difference.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 11:20 am to
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As a parent of three, whom most are in adulthood, it does make me angry when small kids die as a result of poor decisions made my their parents.


There is obvious horrible parenting, like leaving your kid in a hot car to die. Allowing your kid to wade in a pond in front of you isn't bad parenting.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86692 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 11:22 am to
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I'm gonna go on ahead and go out on a limb and say that the kid in the picture is pretty easy to see clearly, which wasn't the case with the other kid.

That makes a huge difference.


what?

the parents were right next to the kid that got attacked

and its at a resort...lights are everywhere, 9 pm in the summer is still somewhat light out

why are ya'll acting like it was pitch black
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Member since Oct 2014
45349 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 11:22 am to
quote:

There is obvious horrible parenting, like leaving your kid in a hot car to die. Allowing your kid to wade in a pond in front of you isn't bad parenting.



So if you're on a savannah excursion in Africa and your kid gets taken out by a lion because he's five ft in front of you, is that bad parenting? Honest question, because it's pretty much the same situation.

An animal, known to be native to the area taking out an unknowing kid. At some point the parents have to be a least a tad bit aware.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Member since Oct 2014
45349 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 11:23 am to
quote:

the parents were right next to the kid that got attacked

and its at a resort...lights are everywhere, 9 pm in the summer is still somewhat light out

why are ya'll acting like it was pitch black


Were you there? Serious question, because that's assuming a lot.

It obviously wasn't pitch black, but it was obviously darker than the kid in the photo.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86692 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 11:28 am to
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Were you there? Serious question, because that's assuming a lot.


no...

but all reports were that the kids parents were right next to him or even holding his hands

quote:

it was obviously darker than the kid in the photo.


obviously

but it wasn't a "huge difference" and the point still remains that kids play at that water edge all the time
Posted by Taurus
Loozianna
Member since Feb 2015
4955 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 11:28 am to
You are not a parent, so you don't know shite about parenting so have a big glass of STFU.

I have 3 kids. Kids do get any situations where bad things can happen, but teaching/guiding through situations can help them be more aware and if lucky avoid bad/tragic situations.

Not always foolproof, but still....

quote:

Flash forward to 2016, the year of THE PERFECT PARENT.


Yeah right. Never existed. Just an excuse.

Perfect parents never existed, but maybe ones that actually stayed home with them instead of putting them in daycare maybe get close.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Member since Oct 2014
45349 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 11:32 am to
quote:

obviously

but it wasn't a "huge difference" and the point still remains that kids play at that water edge all the time


I'm not sure about Florida, especially with it being EST, so correct me if I'm wrong and you live over there lol, but here in CST in Texas, by the time it's 9 p.m. it's totally dark here for the most part. you aren't going to be able to see shite in the water without lights.

BTW, I don't know why I'm talking about this, I honestly don't think anyone is at fault in this scenario (Other than the dad for being kind of a pussy for not doing whatever it took to get his kid back), a total freak accident more than anything.

This post was edited on 6/16/16 at 11:38 am
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