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Paper for EmDrive propulsion leaked (nerds unite!)
Posted on 11/8/16 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 11/8/16 at 3:23 pm
Here's the paper: EmDrive
What You Need To Know About The EmDrive
What You Need To Know About The EmDrive
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A NEW, LEAKED NASA PAPER POINTS TO POTENTIALLY WORKING EMDRIVE
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As discussed below, this is a massive step forward for the EmDrive and for those who believe in the theoretical technology. If the paper on NASA's findings does in fact pass muster and see the light of day — which seems very likely — it'll be a boon for further research and development of the EmDrive tech. This would open the door for continued study and tests, and may finally put humans on the road to fast, lightweight space travel.
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See, the EmDrive is a conundrum. First designed in 2001 by aerospace engineer Roger Shawyer, the technology can be summed up as a propellantless propulsion system, meaning the engine doesn't use fuel to cause a reaction. Removing the need for fuel makes a craft substantially lighter, and therefore easier to move (and cheaper to make, theoretically). In addition, the hypothetical drive is able to reach extremely high speeds -- we're talking potentially getting humans to the outer reaches of the solar system in a matter of months.
The issue is, the entire concept of a reactionless drive is inconsistent with Newton's conservation of momentum, which states that within a closed system, linear and angular momentum remain constant regardless of any changes that take place within said system. More plainly: Unless an outside force is applied, an object will not move.
Reactionless drives are named as such because they lack the "reaction" defined in Newton's third law: "For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction." But this goes against our current fundamental understanding of physics: An action (propulsion of a craft) taking place without a reaction (ignition of fuel and expulsion of mass) should be impossible. For such a thing to occur, it would mean an as-yet-undefined phenomenon is taking place -- or our understanding of physics is completely wrong.
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Setting aside the potentially physics-breaking improbabilities of the technology, let's break down in simple terms how the proposed drive operates. The EmDrive is what is called an RF resonant cavity thruster, and is one of several hypothetical machines that use this model. These designs work by having a magnetron push microwaves into a closed truncated cone, then push against the short end of the cone, and propel the craft forward.
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Spacecraft equipped with a reactionless drive could potentially make it to the moon in just a few hours, Mars in two to three months, and Pluto within two yearsThese are extremely bold claims, but if the EmDrive does turn out to be a legitimate technology, they may not be all that outlandish. And with no need to pack several tons-worth of fuel, spacecraft become cheaper and easier to produce, and far lighter
Posted on 11/8/16 at 3:27 pm to funnystuff
If true this is amazing.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 3:31 pm to DavidTheGnome
If the EmDrive actually works and can be built on a larger scale it would change the course of human history.
We are talking a generational thing.
We are talking a generational thing.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 3:31 pm to funnystuff
Yeah, but does it have Bluetooth?
Posted on 11/8/16 at 3:38 pm to funnystuff
This is how I always expected the future of space travel to work.
There are always going to be ways to bend the rules we think govern the universe. The right people just have to keep working to find those ways
There are always going to be ways to bend the rules we think govern the universe. The right people just have to keep working to find those ways
Posted on 11/8/16 at 3:47 pm to funnystuff
This technology will probably change generational games
Posted on 11/8/16 at 3:50 pm to Fun Bunch
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If the EmDrive actually works and can be built on a larger scale it would change the course of human history.
It might reinspire our lazy apathetic populous to like science again.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 3:51 pm to SundayFunday
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There are always going to be ways to bend the rules we think govern the universe
One of the greatest episodes of TV history is Futurama when Dr. Farnsworth explains to Hubert how his intentions work.
Nothing is impossible with science.
Increasing the speed of light, moving the universe around you instead of you around the universe, etc...
Posted on 11/8/16 at 3:57 pm to Breesus
This shite already exists at Area 51. The aliens sowed us how it works. How do you think they got here?
Posted on 11/8/16 at 4:20 pm to SundayFunday
Reminds me of a WaitButWhy thought experiment. How long of a distance into the future would you need to drop a person from any point in history in order for that future to be absolutely incomprehensible to the time traveler? The conclusion was that the length of time required for such a indiscribable shift in society is narrowing rapidly, and it begs the question of how quickly that gap continues to collapse. This is potentially the kind of technology that could lead to the world being completely incomprehensible to present us in the next 50 years.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 4:27 pm to funnystuff
When i think about this i think of the reverse direction. Imagine putting a super then flat screen TV with HD i nthe 1500s. Heads would explode and people would be burned for witchcraft
Posted on 11/8/16 at 4:46 pm to SundayFunday
Exactly. Hell there are people alive now who grew up before the invention of tv...
Posted on 11/8/16 at 4:47 pm to SundayFunday
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Imagine putting a super then flat screen TV with HD i nthe 1500s. Heads would explode and people would be burned for witchcraft
Dude you don't have to go that far. Imagine showing a Google phone to someone in 1850
Posted on 11/8/16 at 4:50 pm to funnystuff
I don't know enough about the physics to do more than speculate, but I do know that light (which is an electromagnetic wave) carries momentum despite being massless. So relativistic mechanics doesn't require a reaction mass.
Maybe something along those lines is going on here, I'm just guessing though.
Maybe something along those lines is going on here, I'm just guessing though.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 4:50 pm to upgrayedd
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Yeah, but does it have Bluetooth?
Yeah, but no aux port.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 4:53 pm to Breesus
quote:This post makes Scruffy so happy.
One of the greatest episodes of TV history is Futurama when Dr. Farnsworth explains to Hubert how his intentions work.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 4:53 pm to Scruffy
Why the hell didn't you just marry washbucket man?
Posted on 11/8/16 at 4:56 pm to funnystuff
I'm using mine to find some galaxy sluts.
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