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re: OTD in 1943 - Yamamoto Killed by P-38s

Posted on 4/18/18 at 3:50 pm to
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 3:50 pm to
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One of the most beautifully planned and executed aerial missions of the war. At that time, only the P-38 could have completed that long, over-water flight.

Trivia: The mission commander's aircraft had it's compass replaced by one from a naval destroyer, for more accurate navigation.



Additional Trivia: One of the decoders of the message was future Supreme Court Justice, John Paul Stephens
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 3:51 pm to
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Japanese "awakened a sleeping giant


Posted by Count Chocula
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 3:53 pm to
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P-38s


Besides the P51 Mustang, best fighter plane of WW II
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 3:54 pm to
Back when the US wasn't worried about hurting people's feelings while conducting operations.
Posted by Tigris
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 5:28 pm to
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Battle of Midway broke his back


Which we won due to advanced warning by code breakers.

Code Breakers - 2
Yamamoto - 0

Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 5:36 pm to
I thought I was pretty well-versed in WW2 history but I'd never heard of this til now

Always disappointing to be disappointed in oneself
Posted by blackandgolddude
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 5:44 pm to
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Pearl Harbor, Coral Sea, yeah. Battle of Midway broke his back, was the beginning of the end for the Imperial Navy...


To be fair, the Battle of Midway is probably the single most backbreaking defeat that any modern day country suffered in war. Not in personnel or territory, but just sheer changing of the tides. The Japanese Navy was no joke and put up a formidable fight for quite some time, but was absolutely crushed in the span of 72 hours at Midway.
Posted by alphamicro
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 1:30 pm to
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Besides the P51 Mustang, best fighter plane of WW II
The FW-190 and F4U Corsair say hello...
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 2:18 pm to
LINK
This site does a good statistical summary of the Pacific theater of WWII.

Short summary, had Midway succeeded for the Japanese it would only have delayed the inevitable, by about 9 months, due to our manufacturing advantages.
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 2:24 pm
Posted by pensacola
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 2:27 pm to
M’ZI WIIR FIXXIV HIGSHIVW MR XLI UYEH.
Posted by elprez00
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 2:39 pm to
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P-38s Besides the P51 Mustang, best fighter plane of WW II


Had a hand in producing
- 1st fighter capable of 400+ mph (P-38)
- 1st US Jet fighter (P-80)
- 1st fighter capable of Mach 2 (F-104)
- 1st production aircraft to exceed Mach 3 (A-12 and later SR-71)
- U-2

Posted by GeorgePaton
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 2:58 pm to
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One of the most beautifully planned and executed aerial missions of the war.


Believe the pilot credited with the kill later said as he swung his P-38 around to line up for kill he pulled the trigger to fire off a few test rounds. To his surprise those "test rounds" were right on target. Shot ole Yamamoto down on those first rounds. He couldn't have pulled off better shots if he tried.
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 3:00 pm
Posted by White Roach
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 3:11 pm to
Who is Kelly Johnson?
Posted by chinhoyang
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 3:14 pm to
They found his wrecked plane too:

Posted by Reservoir dawg
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 6:46 pm to
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The FW-190 and F4U Corsair say hello...


Great planes. The Bf-109 G-4/G-6 was also a great fighter for the Luftwaffe. Even earlier 109's ate P-38's alive over the Mediterranean. The Lightning was a hell of a ground attack aircraft, however. Many were moved to the Pacific Theater for this role.
Posted by poncho villa
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 6:49 pm to
The frick you say about me
Posted by BasilFawlty
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 7:25 pm to
And the ME 109 and Spitfire
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 4/20/18 at 8:48 pm to
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- 1st fighter capable of Mach 2 (F-104)


Designed without the aid of computers.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/20/18 at 9:58 pm to
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the Battle of Midway is probably the single most backbreaking defeat that any modern day country suffered in war


Kursk says hello.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
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Member since May 2014
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Posted on 4/21/18 at 12:49 am to
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Credited in the movie Tora Tora Tora but I don't think evidence supports him actually saying it. Also opposed war with the US, apparently.


He did say more or less that the politicians and the army establishment didn’t understand what they were getting into (in his “we will have to march to the streets of Washington DC” speech) concerning a war with the U.S. The Japanese Navy in general was less aggressively expansionist philosophically than was the Army..

He had lived in the U.S. for three years and attended Harvard and also served as the attaché in DC. He was fluent in English and understood the U.S. much better than virtually everyone else in the higher echelons of the Japanese political and military establishment.

He also opposed the invasion of Manchuria and vocally opposed an alliance with Germany. He conducted himself with dignity throughout his entire career. He’s probably as close to a good guy that the Axis Powers produced in the higher levels of their hierarchy. Would’ve been interesting to see how he would have turned out if he’d lived.
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