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re: OT Workout crew: Stronglifts 5x5

Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:22 am to
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:22 am to
You take 5 mins between all of your sets on Squat and Deads?
Posted by Konkey Dong
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:26 am to
5x5 is not a beginner program. Research a little more, it's more for strength than size. It will kick your arse when done correctly.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:27 am to
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You take 5 mins between all of your sets on Squat and Deads?


I hope he doesn't mean that - maybe between exercises?

That's 15 sets (not counting warmups) - so, that's 75 minutes of rest - roughly 90 minutes for the workout.

When I do strong lifts - I typically go strict 60 seconds of rest between sets, unless I need a little more. I get a little circuit benefit that way, as the heart rate stays elevated - particularly during the squats and BB rows.

When I add a 3x12 accessory (as I said above, typically pull ups or chins), that typically takes me ~45 minutes, all in.
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:30 am to
quote:

You take 5 mins between all of your sets on Squat and Deads?


Yeah. Martin Berkhan(Lean Gains guy) said thats what he does. I follow the Lean Gains program so its what I do.
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:31 am to
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I hope he doesn't mean that - maybe between exercises?


I only do 3 sets for my lifts. RPT style. Meaning I go all out on the first set. The absolute most weight I can do and still get 6 reps in.

Another thing no one has talked about is that diet is more important than the actual lifting
Posted by Theboot32
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Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:32 am to
i did this program when i got back into lifting after about a 5 year hiatus, really liked it, tons of leg work, which is fine for me, ive got chicken legs!

I stuck with it for a few months and was constantly progressing. We had a baby and I havent lifted since, but when I start again, ill start with this.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:33 am to
It's a great beginning strength program but I would not do it with only dumbells. You won't get the full benefit.
Posted by Chris Farley
Regulating
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:41 am to
Did it a couple years ago, great place to start. Most people starting out don't focus on legs/core enough and this forces you to do that.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:44 am to
There is research out there postulating that it is just as beneficial, but damn who has that kind of time?
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16413 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:45 am to
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Stronglifts 5x5


It's a good program if youre starting to lift. Start out light and make sure your squat form is on point. If not, you will injure yourself because there is a lot of volume with this program. This is the proper way to squat. Dont squat any other way. arse to the ground. You will really need to work on mobility and loosen your hips. I personally think 531 is a better program than this, but this program is beneficial for building foundational strength. It's a mental grind for sure.

quote:

only have dumbbells at the house


I don't see how this program would be possible with only dumbbells. It's a barbell training program that focuses on building total body strength as fast as possible.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22546 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:49 am to
It's a beginner's program for strength gains. If you only have dumbbells then you won't have enough weight to properly use this program.

Look into HST-7
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:01 am to
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5x5 is not a beginner program. Research a little more, it's more for strength than size. It will kick your arse when done correctly.


yes it is a beginner program. It is based on linear progression starting with just the bar. size is about calories. when in a nitrogen positive state with excess calories gains in strenght=gains in mass.

You should follow your own advice and research a little more.
Posted by NOLALGD
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:02 am to
I try to lift 3x a week, maybe once a month I get in a 4th day, but I can only spend 30 minutes, 40 minutes absolute max in the gym each workout with my schedule.

I do a modified version of this workout (sometimes only do 2 of the major lifts) and superset bodyweight exercises (pull ups, various types of push ups, and dips) with the lifts. This has worked great for me and fits in my schedule. I can warm up (sometimes use rowing machine), workout, stretch as needed, and be finished in a little more than 30 minutes.

Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:03 am to
quote:

It's a beginner's program for strength gains. If you only have dumbbells then you won't have enough weight to properly use this program.

Look into HST-7


Yea you will not be able to do the program with just dumbells. Honestly if I only had dbs and a pullup bar then I would just do beast body again or one of the other beach body programs. If you want something short then do P90X3 or beast body again.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:05 am to
Where it says deadlift 1x5

How do you determine workload? What about warm up lifts?
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:06 am to
was looking for something different

i've enjoyed BB, but not opposed to doing it again.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:07 am to
Can you expound on nitrogen podi state briefly
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:17 am to
It's a great foundational program. I did it then bumped to Wendler 5-3-1 and have been sustaining real gains longer than ever before in my life.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38624 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:37 am to
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Can you expound on nitrogen podi state briefly


Meaning if you have excess protein. essentially, eat enough protein to allow the muscle building process to take place and be over your TDEE in calories, then gains in strength=gains in muscle.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38624 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:39 am to
quote:

It's a great foundational program. I did it then bumped to Wendler 5-3-1 and have been sustaining real gains longer than ever before in my life.


Exactly, Stronglifts is a great foundation program. Idealy somebody just starting out would do the following

stronglifts approx 3-6 months-->greyskull approx 12-18 months---> madcow or texas method---> 12-18 months--->5/3/1 as the base program for the rest of your life.
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