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OT Watch Thread: Tudor Black Bay 58 Bronze: New or Used?

Posted on 11/5/23 at 2:55 pm
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 2:55 pm
Headed to Orlando Tues/Wed for work and called the Tudor Store there. It’s in stock and retails for $4,875. Looks like some used versions are anywhere from $225 to over 50% off used.

Would the OT Watch gurus recommend buying used or full price retail? This will be the first big boy watch purchase and I’m just curious as to y’all’s thoughts on the retail versus appreciation over time, etc.

Suggestions on a purchase approach welcomed.

Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18555 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 2:57 pm to
For the life of me, I don’t get watch culture
Posted by Rendevoustavern
Member since May 2018
1539 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 3:07 pm to
Always buy from an AD to get the piece of mind. I know it’s not necessarily a piece they rep but a used could be parted out etc, the premium buying new, imo, is worth it.

Also, it’s $5k. Does that hurt? If so go used to scratch the itch if needed, but again I prefer the AD experience and having the box/papers knowing it’s not been parted out or possibly fake.
Posted by nugget
Mostly Peaceful Poster
Member since Dec 2009
13814 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 3:25 pm to
So I could buy it for $5k or $225?

Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32414 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 3:29 pm to
$225 off of retail
Posted by Laugh More
Member since Jan 2022
1055 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 3:29 pm to
I don’t understand it either, but I know what an ugly watch is and…
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32414 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 3:32 pm to
quote:

This will be the first big boy watch purchase and I’m just curious as to y’all’s thoughts on the retail versus appreciation over time, etc.


I’ve purchased used before, but definitely buy from a reputable source if that’s what you’re going to do.

I’m curious as to why you’re choosing a bronze watch as your first “big boy” watch. Something like a Black Bay 54, BB58 (in stainless), or even a Pelagos 39 would be much more versatile. But, obviously style is unique to the person.
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
16986 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 3:35 pm to
Are you a heavy set Italian guy with slicked back hair?

If not, then you are gonna look like a douche bag wearing a gold and black watch
Posted by tylerlsu2008
London
Member since Jul 2015
1087 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

For the life of me, I don’t get watch culture


I don’t understand why anyone would pay $90k for a pick-up truck or a Tahoe. Or buying side-by-sides to ride around subdivisions.

Let people spend their damn money how they choose
Posted by Boston911
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2013
1937 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 3:45 pm to
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Posted by LSUDVM1999
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2010
2071 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 3:48 pm to
quote:


I don’t understand why anyone would pay $90k for a pick-up truck or a Tahoe. Or buying side-by-sides to ride around subdivisions.

Let people spend their damn money how they choose


I agree. I know a dude who dropped $90K to buy a 125 year old Tortoise. To each their own.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32414 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

If not, then you are gonna look like a douche bag wearing a gold and black watch


It’s bronze and brown…
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28261 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

I know a dude who dropped $90K to buy a 125 year old Tortoise.

Pretty smart. Tortoise has been appreciating like crazy.
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Member since Feb 2006
11656 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 3:59 pm to
I have two different Tudor watches
The bronze model and black bay. I think what ever you can get at a better value for your money.
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8064 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 4:14 pm to
It's your money and you buy whatever you want.

I wouldn't buy a bronze watch. I wouldn't buy a chocolate dial. That's just me.

Black Bay are grail tier for a lot of people who are into watches.
Posted by NewIberiaHaircut
Lafayette
Member since May 2013
11544 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 4:16 pm to
Buy new. That way as the bronze ages, the patina is all you.

ETA…. Don’t buy a Tudor with the idea of it appreciating.
This post was edited on 11/5/23 at 4:18 pm
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27061 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 4:20 pm to
$225 wouldn't come close to being worth it to me to buy used. Unless I can get at least 25% off on a "like new" condition watch, I would rather just pay retail. Not worth the headache.
Posted by tylerlsu2008
London
Member since Jul 2015
1087 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 4:22 pm to
I personal like to buy new, but I (to this point at least) buy for keeps and don’t really flip or trade.

If buying for life, I like the idea of it “being mine”, whether stupid or not. All the scratches and wear being my memories and not someone else’s.

The first one is also special — so I’d personally suggest new. You can probably negotiate that watch. Check brand new in box comps online to get a sense of the potential discount you can angle for. To do that though, you will need to be at an AD, boutiques typically won’t negotiate as much, if any.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
18268 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 4:23 pm to
I have the black stainless BB58 and I love it. Idk how I'd like the bronze because of how the patina develops. Like the guy above said, if you go used you'll have to deal with the fact that it's already started to patina on someone else's wrist. If you don't care about that, go used and save a bunch of money. They're a good bit cheaper on the gray market from what I remember
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18901 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 4:28 pm to
The Bronze is next up on my To Buy list. But I am 25 watches deep at this point. I can't see that as a first purchase. But to each their own. I certainly don't listen to anyone on my purchases. I just see what I like and buy it.

I made the decision early on to always buy new. It's a personal thing I guess but, like someone else said, I enjoy knowing every scratch and burr is mine. Plus, these days the fakes are so good I can't stand the thought of paying the money and then finding out later it's fake when I go to get it serviced. I certainly wouldn't buy use to save $225.
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