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Posted on 11/5/23 at 7:19 pm to tylerlsu2008
Nothing I said is putting it down. I have spent a ridiculous amount of money on things others think I’m crazy for. They’d say the same thing to me. But regardless, that’s how I feel. I don’t get it. It’s 2023. Let your phone be your watch unless your a diver
Posted on 11/5/23 at 7:50 pm to GFunk
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Would the OT Watch gurus recommend buying used or full price retail?
I would not buy that particular reference new unless you can work a decent discount from the AD or if the AD experience is important enough to you to pay the premium. On the other hand, it's not a terribly expensive watch, and if a couple of grand doesn't matter and AD experience makes you feel better, then there's your answer. Otherwise, I would try to find it on the secondary market.
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I’m just curious as to y’all’s thoughts on the retail versus appreciation over time, etc.
This is not a watch that is going to appreciate over time. I mean no one can predict the future, but that would be an entirely unlikely scenario. You'll lose a good bit as soon as you walk out of the AD.
That being said, I have a BB58 blue I bought from an AD several years ago, no discount, mostly because it was new, hot at the time, and both me and the watch were in the store at the same time. I totally understand the lure of immediate availability. The size and wearability of that watch is superb.
This post was edited on 11/5/23 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 11/5/23 at 8:43 pm to NewIberiaHaircut
Tudor submariner versions from 20 years ago are now quadruple their original price or more.
Posted on 11/5/23 at 9:10 pm to zippyputt
That’s not going to happen with a black bay and you know it.
Posted on 11/5/23 at 10:34 pm to NewIberiaHaircut
I don’t think anyone “knows” it, but I’m pretty sure a brown one won’t!
I’d buy the black model Tudor used though.
I’d buy the black model Tudor used though.
Posted on 11/5/23 at 11:02 pm to zippyputt
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I don’t think anyone “knows” it, but I’m pretty sure a brown one won’t!
That would be betting against history. The watches that aren't highly exclusive that tend to have the most appreciation are the oddballs that nobody wanted when they were available. Look at the manual wind Daytonas, stores could barely give them away when they were being made.
While I don't think any of the modern Tudors (post 2012 US reintroduction) are going to see significant appreciation any time soon ones to consider IMO would be:
The first 41mm Black Bays with ETA movements. The were discontinued fairly quickly (especially the blue) and they have visually different dials which collectors prefer over other differentiators. The Tudor rose and smiley face text are preferred by most in a vacuum. The proportion of in-house compared to ETA grows every day.
The Black Bay P01, they discontinued it because it didn't sell well but I bet one day it will become coveted after someone puts out a retrospective piece on it and fuels demand like Hodinkee did with the Speedmaster Mk40 and John Mayer about every third time he opens his mouth re watches.
I would have said the BB Harrods edition when you had to pick them up in person in London but now they will just mail you one.
My point is don't discount the oddballs as they are the ones that when people decide they want them the supply is small. That being said there are only a small number of modern watches that have any chance of a large appreciation over time IMO. Some are hot for a while but sooner or later the model is updated, the pent-up demand is sated and/or people just move onto the next thing.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 7:32 am to Obtuse1
I agree to some extent on the “oddball” things being scarce and valuable later, …..sometimes. You just never know. Kind of like going to the casino. My thought has always been buy what you like and what you can afford. If it appreciates fantastic. If not, you have something you like regardless.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 7:48 am to zippyputt
I have the Tudor black bay bronze. I love it. It’s turned an almost green hue. I like vintage watches though, so the aging appeals to me.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 8:54 am to Obtuse1
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The Black Bay P01
The reactions when that one came out were pretty humorous. That is one hideous watch
Posted on 11/6/23 at 8:56 am to Epic Cajun
At least it’s on a strap, albeit with some hideous lug treatment, like a real watch.
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