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re: OT advice on being an educated juror.

Posted on 7/30/18 at 9:08 pm to
Posted by Btrtigerfan
Disgruntled employee
Member since Dec 2007
24176 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 9:08 pm to
quote:

So I ended up just telling the truth and being myself. Then got selected. Then made it through first selection. Apparently i was the “most entertaining juror”, although I suppose the bar is low for a bunch of people watching lawyers ask questions with no other distractions.

Then got selected for the final jury.

In the end I was excited. It felt interesting to see the system in action and play my civic duty. To be an impartial citizen and hold the state to their burden of proof.



And then to top it all off, I just got told i’m getting paid in full for every day i’m On jury duty so it’s a win win. Actually stoked about it now



Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
117158 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 9:09 pm to
I hate ******s.

Also...if they were arrested, they're guilty.

Or

frick the police...they're all dirty.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70128 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 9:11 pm to
This is easy

Portray yourself as a racist, homosexual, whatever is the opposite of the defendant
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
22018 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 9:22 pm to
Wear a tie if you are male, act like you know it all, and say guilty......a lot.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
135032 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 9:50 pm to
Any OT lawyers want to school me on what I should know about things like jury nullification?
Posted by JDogg33
Member since Oct 2017
405 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 9:51 pm to
Shouldn't being a college graduate get you struck by the Defense in Baton Rouge?

They want the dumbest shits they can find.
Posted by CroakaBait
Gulf Coast of the Land Mass
Member since Nov 2013
4097 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:08 pm to
In Mississippi County & Circuit court jury selection the judge has to ask if anyone’s a habitual drunkard or common gambler. There’s always a few people who approach the bench after that announcement and get released.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
106059 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:12 pm to
When I was called, at least a third of them were no shows. AFAIK there weren't any consequences.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 12:28 am to
quote:

Any OT lawyers want to school me on what I should know about things like jury nullification?



"Jury nullification was introduced into America in 1735 in the trial of John Peter Zenger, Printer of The New York Weekly Journal. Zenger repeatedly attacked Governor William Cosby of New York in his journal. This was a violation of the seditious libel law, which prohibited criticism of the King or his appointed officers. The attacks became sufficient to bring Zenger to trial. He clearly was guilty of breaking the law, which held that true statements could be libelous. However Zenger's lawyer, Andrew Hamilton, addressed himself to the jury, arguing that the court's law was outmoded. Hamilton contended that falsehood was the principal thing that makes a libel. It took the jury only a few minutes to nullify the law and declare Zenger not guilty. Ever since, the truth has been a defense in libel cases.

In recent times, the courts have tried to erode the nullification powers of juries. Particular impetus for this was given by the fact that all-white juries in the southern states refused to convict whites of crimes against blacks. As a result there is a practice of judges to incorrectly instruct the jury that the judge determines the law, and that the jury is limited to determining the facts. Such an instruction defeats the purpose of the jury, which is to protect the defendant from the tyranny of the state. Judges or expert witnesses can determine the facts better than juries can. The purpose of the jury is to protect the defendant from the tyranny of the law.

In Les Miserables, Victor Hugo highlighted the difference between justice and law. 'The jury's responsibility is to deliver justice, not to uphold the law.'"

John Jay, the first Chief Justice of the U. S. Supreme Court stated in 1789: "The jury has the right to judge both the law as well as the fact in controversy."

Samuel Chase, U. S. Supreme Court Justice and signer of the Declaration of Independence, said in 1796: "The jury has the right to determine both the law and the facts. "

U. S. Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes said in 1902: "The jury has the power to bring a verdict in the teeth of both law and fact."

Harlan F. Stone, the 12th Chief Justice of the U. S. Supreme Court, stated in 1941: "The law itself is on trial quite as much as the cause which is to be decided."
This post was edited on 7/31/18 at 12:37 am
Posted by mulletproof
Shambala
Member since Apr 2013
4780 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 12:59 am to
If the defense asks you why you might make a good juror, say "cuz I can spot a guilty person just like that" and snap your finger really loud when you do it.
Posted by Hope Seternal
parts unknown
Member since Nov 2012
594 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 4:10 am to
So how much doubt is “reasonable”?
Posted by DannyB
Bagram, Afghanistan
Member since Aug 2010
6141 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 5:08 am to
DP
This post was edited on 7/31/18 at 5:19 am
Posted by DannyB
Bagram, Afghanistan
Member since Aug 2010
6141 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 5:09 am to
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All you have to say is that you don’t think you can judge the actions of others.


Take it a step further and get religious about it. Tell them it says in the Bible, "Judge not, lest ye be judged", and that God will take care of the judgement when the defendant's life is done.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19798 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 5:24 am to
Just be glad it's not a Grand Jury. I am currently sitting on one. I admit it's kinda fun, though.
Posted by LSUERDOC
Member since Jul 2013
2608 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 7:11 am to
Not legal. The judge has no authority over you if not selected for jury duty.
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