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re: Oregon becomes first state to end private equity and corporate control of doctor practices
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:42 pm to rickgrimes
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:42 pm to rickgrimes
Man this could be really good for me, as I live in Oregon.
She better sign.
She better sign.
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:46 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Nah.
Depends on the PE company and the industry. A lot of PE is basically glorified pump and dump. Infra and commercial RE tend to be a bit different, but there's still some bad actors out there.
This post was edited on 6/11/25 at 9:53 pm
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:47 pm to StrongSafety
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I do find it amusing the pro business loving republicans who favor privatization of everything, are against this. This is your doing.
It’s a direct byproduct of the Republican pro-business,” at any cost “mentality, and the push to prefer privately ran companies, with little to no regulations, over govt ran entities.
It’s as if republicans don’t even know their potential worse selves. So blinded by profits, greed and commerce, they aren’t taking the time to do the long term forecasting of the potential ramifications of scaling business models like this.
The whole “get mines now, who cares if it wrecks shop later” mentality is so selfish and played out. Especially when you’re already making record profits. We could have avoided this if people could have been more judicial with how we approach
Large corporations are basically government entities now, not sure how that's "zomg Republicans!!!"
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:54 pm to Jcorye1
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Infra and commercial RE tend to be a bit different, but there's still some bad actors out there.
Sure, there’s bad actors everywhere. In my experience, real estate people seem to be the worse of the lot.
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:58 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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There’s a lot of really really bad dudes in private equity. Scummy individuals
Sure, there are some, but I’ve had worse experiences with VC and real estate people.
A lot is sector driven too. I don’t deal with larger buyout managers very much.
Posted on 6/11/25 at 10:02 pm to yellowfin
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Love when government tells private businesses how they can operate
A majority of Americans believe free enterprise is a tide that raises all boats.
Private equity does not do that.
This post was edited on 6/11/25 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:29 am to Mo Jeaux
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You really hate private equity.
Just look at everything Bain Cap does, they wrote the playbook on this.
If you boil down Mitt Romney to his essence, that is PE. Do you not hate Mitt Romney?
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:46 pm to CharlesLSU
quote:Destroyed how?
It has destroyed civil engineering consulting.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:49 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:This is so broad as to be meaningless. "Private equity" includes everything from the titanic, famed firms (KKR, Blackstone, etc.) down to so-called "independent sponsors" - might be a 55 year old dude with a little bit of money that raises money from family and friends to buy and run a business and then do a "roll up".
There’s a lot of really really bad dudes in private equity. Scummy individuals
That is to say, there are literally millions of Americans working in "private equity" - so of course there are some "bad dudes". It's a pool of humans. What do you expect?
One amusing thing to me is that one of the main things a PE owner might do is push prices of their products higher - meaning the original owners weren't pricing high enough. And despite all of the "small government conservative" rhetoric around free enterprise and the like, they really hate having to pay more for stuff.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:51 pm to Big Scrub TX
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This is so broad as to be meaningless. "Private equity" includes everything from the titanic, famed firms (KKR, Blackstone, etc.) down to so-called "independent sponsors" - might be a 55 year old dude with a little bit of money that raises money from family and friends to buy and run a business and then do a "roll up".
Any non autist knows what it means
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One amusing thing to me is that one of the main things a PE owner might do is push prices of their products higher - meaning the original owners weren't pricing high enough.


Posted on 6/12/25 at 1:42 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:Nah. Now you're just being obtuse. There is nothing whatsoever wrong with private people pooling their dollars to buy private businesses.
Any non autist knows what it means
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:31 pm to rickgrimes
I get the hate for PE. They are there to make money. People don’t like that health care is a business and business requires profit to run. I get that too.
What I think people tend to miss is in the equation here is that ALL providers of health care have to be profitable or the system eventually collapses into a single payer clusterf$&@.
Physician owned practices require profit to continue to exist. Same for hospitals or hospital systems that employee physicians. Private equity owned practices are no different in that sense.
It’s getting harder and harder for physicians to make it in private practice. IMO there needs to be another option besides hospital employment to keep the big hospital systems in check. I think PE backed firms are the solution for that and outlawing them is likely a bad idea.
What I think people tend to miss is in the equation here is that ALL providers of health care have to be profitable or the system eventually collapses into a single payer clusterf$&@.
Physician owned practices require profit to continue to exist. Same for hospitals or hospital systems that employee physicians. Private equity owned practices are no different in that sense.
It’s getting harder and harder for physicians to make it in private practice. IMO there needs to be another option besides hospital employment to keep the big hospital systems in check. I think PE backed firms are the solution for that and outlawing them is likely a bad idea.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:53 pm to Mo Jeaux
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lol. Why?
Because he’s a moron and has no idea what he’s talking about.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:24 pm to rickgrimes
ACOs that are under the control of the government are ruining healthcare
Just an example for everyone because I’m in the medical field and see it first hand.
You as a patient may assume going in that your doctor will absolutely use the best options for Laboratories in the area to get your cultures, bloodwork, PCR, etc test results.
The fact of the matter is they are tied into a network that tells them who to go to yielding results in 2-3 days(sometimes longer) than another Labs that can take ur same insurance and get the results back the next day.
Why is this important? It’s hard to treat what they don’t know is happening. So they come up with an antibiotic or drug that may not even work due to not knowing exactly what it is or if you have. You may also have antibiotic resistance to certain medications that won’t treat you as well either.
Point being don’t let them choose your Lab. Ask for “local” lab(they know who they are believe me) to get your results back tomorrow.
This way you’re actually treated accurately as soon as possible based on your tests results, and not on their best guess.
Just an example for everyone because I’m in the medical field and see it first hand.
You as a patient may assume going in that your doctor will absolutely use the best options for Laboratories in the area to get your cultures, bloodwork, PCR, etc test results.
The fact of the matter is they are tied into a network that tells them who to go to yielding results in 2-3 days(sometimes longer) than another Labs that can take ur same insurance and get the results back the next day.
Why is this important? It’s hard to treat what they don’t know is happening. So they come up with an antibiotic or drug that may not even work due to not knowing exactly what it is or if you have. You may also have antibiotic resistance to certain medications that won’t treat you as well either.
Point being don’t let them choose your Lab. Ask for “local” lab(they know who they are believe me) to get your results back tomorrow.
This way you’re actually treated accurately as soon as possible based on your tests results, and not on their best guess.
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