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re: Only a few cities could actually accommodate Amazon's second HQ

Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:18 am to
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79169 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:18 am to
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Jacksonville FL


gross why?

I think Phoenix and Denver are good options but too close to WA. Boston and Philly strike me as decent traditional options, but the Southern and Texas cities are kicking their arse in attracting millennials.

Charlotte or research triangle would be good. Atlanta or Dallas would be good. Austin is obviously attractive but it seems like Amazon might want to break new ground and have a larger impact. Nashville getting it would probably help Nashville survive the inevitable bubble burst and give it more long term viability as an increasingly significant city.
Posted by jdeval1
Member since Dec 2009
7525 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:18 am to
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There was actually an article in the Advocate trying to tell us what Louisiana has to do to get Amazon to come here. 

I saw that article. I was going to comment on it but I don't have Facebook. We can't even keep Raising Canes
Posted by FieldMink
Fort Worth
Member since Jul 2017
797 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:19 am to
Houston or Dallas works for me
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72059 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:20 am to
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LA but we better not waste a bunch of money chasing this. We don't stand a chance.
LA has a snowball's chance in hell.

The state has nothing to offer.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112604 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:20 am to
Victor's
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171036 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:21 am to
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I am the biggest cheerleader on here for LA


Los Angeles? Because certainly you don't mean Louisiana.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:21 am to
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is Amazon, a company that thinks of growth in terms of decades, going to locate a headquarters in a place where it might have to hire over 4 percent of the metro area's labor force with uncertainty over whether that labor force will ever grow?
Seattle actually shrunk in the decades prior to Amazon; now it's the fastest growing city in America. It's almost as if the labor force responds to the supply of jobs.
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The next factor that will reduce the list of possibilities is the need for a suitable international airport.
Almost every major city (if not every one) has an international airport. Of course, just like everything else, the airlines and airports adapt to supply and demand.

Obviously the cities listed are likely options for any business, but the writer is discussing economics but is ignoring some of the most fundamental concepts of economics.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29287 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:22 am to
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I am the biggest cheerleader on here for LA but we better not waste a bunch of money chasing this. We don't stand a chance.


If we pay 10 bucks to a Jr High student to write a proposal we've already paid too much.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 9:22 am
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16859 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:22 am to
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I think that's making an incorrect assumption that all 50K employees need to be come from the metro area's existing labor force.



Amazon currently recruits from all over the world.

The city needs to be able to host this migration with affordable housing, good university systems, and good infrastructure.

I don't see tens of thousands of employees in a place with a high costs of living or high taxes like Toronto, San Francisco or Boston being likely. Dallas or one of the midwestern cities (Indy, Pittsburgh, Columbus, or Minneapolis) are a much smarter choice IMO. Maybe even Nashville, St. Louis, or Memphis.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 9:25 am
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31829 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:22 am to
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This is the Olympics of corporate relocations. The winning city will be able to offer a large metro area, a deep and educated talent pool with a strong local university system, a robust international airport, sufficient highway and transit infrastructure, a reasonable cost of living, a welcoming culture, a business-friendly environment, likely eye-popping tax incentives, and a local business and political community able to work together to make a convincing pitch.



Other than Atlanta I'd say Houston fits his characteristics better than any of his listed cities. Big metro area with an elite university in Rice and somewhat solid UH locally and highly ranked public TAMU a stones throw away. IAH, cheap living, business friendly local and state wide environment. Check check check.

For the record I don't think Houston gets it-not "hip" enough for a west coast tech company but it certainly fits the bill better than some of his listed cities. I definitely could see Austin or Dallas getting it though which would make me laugh at first given Bezos politics but then nauseated thinking about the further influx of Californians to the great state of Texas.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 9:23 am
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:22 am to
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Toronto, Boston, Washington DC, Atlanta, Dallas or Denver


itll be NYC
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
47129 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:22 am to
Mandeville

Draws from BR and NOLA.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79169 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:23 am to
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Almost every major city (if not every one) has an international airport. Of course, just like everything else, the airlines and airports adapt to supply and demand.



yeah but we all know international airports are not created equally

3 flights a week to Cancun are probably not what Amazon is looking for
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20430 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:23 am to
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Nashville getting it would probably help Nashville survive the inevitable bubble burst and give it more long term viability as an increasingly significant city.


The beauty of nashville is its central location. I really think a lot of business that involves logistics like Amazon are going to view growth in Nashville more and more. One of the reasons its a great location for locals is you have 1.5 hour direct flights to almost the entire country east of Texas. I don't mean to say that for business, as much as an example of how centrally located it is. You are 7 hours by car to the gulf coast and 7 hours to Chicago.
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
30054 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:23 am to
I'm guessing it ends up in between two large cities

Halfway between Austin/San Antonio or Denver/Colorado Springs. Possibly Jacksonville/Orlando.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79169 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:24 am to
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For the record I don't think Houston gets it-not "hip" enough for a west coast tech company but it certainly fits the bill better than some of his listed cities. I definitely could see Austin or Dallas getting it though which would make me laugh at first given Bezos politics but then nauseated thinking about the further influx of Californians to the great state of Texas.



I agree, Houston lacks the "hip" factor. I think Austin has too much of it, FWIW. I'd think Amazon would want to put its mark somewhere, and Austin is already "cool"
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26551 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:25 am to
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If we pay 10 bucks to a Jr High student to write a proposal we've already paid too much


I 'ed
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171036 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:25 am to
Not many places have an airport like Denver, Dallas, or Atlanta
Posted by AnonymousTiger
Franklin, TN
Member since Jan 2012
4863 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:26 am to
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Did you actually READ the article? Nashville? Hell no.


I read everything that you posted. Nashville has the land easily available for the office space requirement. There are 2 current developments that could accommodate the space needs.

As for workforce the city has the 2nd largest increase in workforce over the past decade (27%), with only Austin being higher.

International Airport? Check. Direct flights to London start in June and they are currently building a new state of the art international terminal.

Robust university systems? Check, obviously. One of the highest university systems in the c I untry, including quality educational schools like Vanderbilt.

Favorable tax system, yep. And a business friendly republican governor. City itself has already said they were preparing an incentive package to make a bid.
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6209 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:26 am to
Statues out; Amazon in!
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