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re: Once Iran is liberated, it’ll be a great place to travel
Posted on 3/2/26 at 10:56 am to RemouladeSawce
Posted on 3/2/26 at 10:56 am to RemouladeSawce
quote:If an attack on the uniformed armed forces of one sovereign state by the uniformed armed forces of two other sovereign states at the direction of their governments with the expressed goal of regime change isn't "war" then that word is meaningless.
There isn't really a war to enter at this point
This post was edited on 3/2/26 at 11:04 am
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Posted on 3/2/26 at 11:00 am to KiwiHead
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complicated country to govern
Agreed, I don't think we Americans come close to understanding the situation. On the positive side Persians are not Arabs and kept much of their culture and language during the era of Islamic conquest. On the negative side some factions sip oil wealth and have ambitions of returning to a Persia-First dominance in the Middle East. When the Shah was deposed there was a coalition of Pro-Democracy, Pro-Communists & Pro-Islamist...the last took over. With them killed off, US might not be happy with a new order.
Posted on 3/2/26 at 11:01 am to greenbean
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Oh yeah, US regime change has worked out great in Afghanistan,Syria, Libya and Iraq. All those countries are worse now than when we got involved.
What regime change happened in Libya? They were fighting a civil war in Libya and now they aren't. Only a retard would think your country in a civil war is better for you.
Iraq, well you can choose freedom and maybe a bit of uncertainty, or you can be under a murderous dictator and things are a bit better economically. Not great though, because the whole point of him going to war over the oil fields was because Iraq was fricking broke.
And I guess Afghanistan is better off under Taliban rule than Nato? Is that what you are going with?
In the beginning of these areas going to shite was because of the commies. Where do you think the weapons originally came from? The Soviet Union. Yes, people like Joe Biden have given them plenty of weapons. But it all started with the Soviets.
Posted on 3/2/26 at 11:04 am to hawgfaninc
I 100% agree with you.
I also don't believe stroking the MIC while cupping Bibi's balls is worth a potential new vacation spot.
But opinions vary.
I also don't believe stroking the MIC while cupping Bibi's balls is worth a potential new vacation spot.
But opinions vary.
Posted on 3/2/26 at 11:05 am to N2cars
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My kind aren't welcomed there
What kind are you?
Posted on 3/2/26 at 11:05 am to HarryHoudini
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A lot of middle eastern countries have some of the most beautiful landscapes. Breathtaking mountains beautiful beaches.
Georgia (the country, not the US state) is another place where you see pictures and think, "wow, I would love to travel there" ...and then you start reading more.
Posted on 3/2/26 at 11:06 am to EastWestConnection
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I went to Pyongyang in 2015 and cant say I had a great experience
You should start a thread on this experience. I'd like to read about it
Posted on 3/2/26 at 11:08 am to VerlanderBEAST
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Yes just like Iraq and Afghanistan
Iran might be a different scenario since they were at one point a decent country.
Posted on 3/2/26 at 11:26 am to dgnx6
I think what we don’t understand is that some cultures don’t want democracy. We thought the Iraqis would welcome us in and it would be Shangri-La after we removed Sadaam. Turns out it was much worse. Some cultures want to be governed with an authoritarian hand. They respect power and absolute rule. That’s hard for us to understand as Americans.
Posted on 3/2/26 at 11:28 am to Tree_Fall
I suspect that the mullahs went out of their way to install a majority of the bureaucracy and governmental offices with a bunch of paranoid and equally brutal as well as ideologically similar shitheads like themselves. 45 years of institutional conditioning.
There are a plethora of unknowns in this game....among the US and Israel as well as Iran in particular
There are a plethora of unknowns in this game....among the US and Israel as well as Iran in particular
Posted on 3/2/26 at 11:43 am to hawgfaninc
I was actually thinking about this last night. I'd love to see Iran's natural beauty and visit their ancient cultural pillars.
My great uncle (who was a Lutheran pastor) used to arrange visits to Israel and Europe. My grandparents went on a few of them in the 70s and some of the stories are unforgettable. The worst in West Germany was the presence of pay toilets. They went to East Germany where there was one toilet to share on the entire floor. They said the worst though was the crossing where the East Germans had dogs going all over the bus while the guards interrogated each of them individually. They also had trips to Israel which they said was beautiful.
If they could deal with all that, I can deal with some safety uncertainty in Iran during the transition.
My great uncle (who was a Lutheran pastor) used to arrange visits to Israel and Europe. My grandparents went on a few of them in the 70s and some of the stories are unforgettable. The worst in West Germany was the presence of pay toilets. They went to East Germany where there was one toilet to share on the entire floor. They said the worst though was the crossing where the East Germans had dogs going all over the bus while the guards interrogated each of them individually. They also had trips to Israel which they said was beautiful.
If they could deal with all that, I can deal with some safety uncertainty in Iran during the transition.
Posted on 3/2/26 at 12:49 pm to DesScorp
I mean even if they are like a Saudi Arabia that's a win. Saudi is a tourist spot now too.
And Dubai is insane in the nearby UAE. Iran has more positives than both in terms of sites and cuisine.
And Dubai is insane in the nearby UAE. Iran has more positives than both in terms of sites and cuisine.
Posted on 3/2/26 at 12:52 pm to N2cars
If you watch travel videos. The people there seem welcoming even to Americans. It's the government and clerics that are fricked up.
The Persians live their country buy but all love their leaders. When you hear of Americans being into trouble there. It's by the police or military not the people.
The Persians live their country buy but all love their leaders. When you hear of Americans being into trouble there. It's by the police or military not the people.
Posted on 3/2/26 at 12:55 pm to hawgfaninc
The scenery looks great, the wimmins look hot, but there is still a contingent of politicos that have been in power for decades and are not going away.
I don't believe it will be the travel Mecca some would hope it would be.
I don't believe it will be the travel Mecca some would hope it would be.
Posted on 3/2/26 at 12:55 pm to Napoleon
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I mean even if they are like a Saudi Arabia that's a win. Saudi is a tourist spot now too.
And Dubai is insane in the nearby UAE
I totally get what you mean but you named off all the countries that produced 9/11 perpetrators.
Posted on 3/2/26 at 12:58 pm to greenbean
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Some cultures want to be governed with an authoritarian hand. They respect power and absolute rule. That’s hard for us to understand as Americans.
Guy in Iraq once said to me: You Americans don’t get it. You think we are concerned with voting. All we want is running water and electricity that works more than 10 hours a day.
Posted on 3/2/26 at 1:37 pm to hawgfaninc
The real shame is how much amazing archeology was destroyed by these lunatic fascists in charge.
Posted on 3/2/26 at 1:38 pm to BK Lounge
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I haven't met very many Persian women in my life, but the ones i have met are, on average, very hot .
I totally agree. Worked with one for a while. Her and her family would go back to the homeland at Christmas. She was a very nice lady and very attractive.
Also, all of these tiktoks of Persian women dancing makes me think there are a lot of attractive women in that country.
Posted on 3/2/26 at 3:40 pm to greenbean
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I think what we don’t understand is that some cultures don’t want democracy. We thought the Iraqis would welcome us in and it would be Shangri-La after we removed Sadaam.
That in a nutshell is the amount of epic failure that went in to liberating that shite hole. Anybody with half a brain knew that about Iraq. Granted Sadaam was a special kind of evil but at least he kept things in check over there and that included all his neighbors as well. When we removed him, it became a free for all because they had no clue how to handle democracy and we had no clearcut plan post invasion to fix anything. It was like we have this country of goat herders with a ton of oil, what do we do now other than let Cheney and his minions count all the money they were making and then get the frick out? Iran seems like they could be more stable. I guess we will see.
Posted on 3/2/26 at 3:40 pm to hawgfaninc
Can we liberate Colorado next?
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