re: On this day in history 1844: Mormon Church founder Joseph Smith murdered by irate mob

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For anyone interested in the topic, I highly recommend Fawn M. Brodie's biography of Joseph Smith, "No Man Knows My History." The title is taken from a quote by Smith. Brodie was a history professor at UCLA. She was also a Mormon. The Mormon church excommunicated her after the book was published, so obviously they didn't like it. But I found it balanced and thorough. I am interested in the history of religions, and Mormonism is distinctly American religion.

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Thanks for this. I've recently listened to Ambroses' books on Lewis and Clark and the Transcontinental Railroad. I love learning about the development of that part of the United States

I'v taken the family to SLC and took pics in front of the famous Mormon sites even though we're Catholic. I look forward to listening to this bio of Joseph Smith. I had no idea he was murdered until today.

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Thanks for this. I've recently listened to Ambroses' books on Lewis and Clark and the Transcontinental Railroad. I love learning about the development of that part of the United States

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I read both of those books and absolutely loved them.

Is there no help for the widows son.

You open with "no one would die for a lie" which may be one of the most ignorant statements I've ever read. I actually had to think about your post being sarcasm, it reads that bad to 99% of people.

I live in a town with more cows than people. We value our privacy which is why people choose to live so rural. Unfortunately there is a Mormon church in our county and they are relentless unwanted trespassers. If they would just do their own thing and leave people alone no one would care...but they insist on trespassing on private property to try and convince people to believe their incredibly stupid story of origin.

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Probably that, and knocking on people's doors wanting to spread the word at 8 a.m

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Do they still do that? I haven't seen the bicycle guys in years. I could tolerate them when they came around. They were always respectful, kind and didn't push their faith and opinions on you. They were just spreading their version of Christianity.

The Jehovah Witnesses are entirely different story.

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They were always respectful, kind and didn't push their faith and opinions on yo

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If they were respectful...they wouldn't be intruding on other people's property repeatedly.

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They were just spreading their version of Christianity.

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Their version is not Christianity.

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Always wondered what makes one religion less kooky than the next.

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1. Timing

2. The wealth and influence of the storytellers.

When I read threads like this on this site, it is always fairly sobering……I’m guessing most of the posters here are “southern”, and were probably raised around or in Christian culture. But there is always an overwhelming number who are clearly not Christians. When we don’t have massive support of Christianity in the south, it’s over. So it’s over. It’s really just more fulfilling of Bible prophecy. Strange how something based on “loving your neighbor” gets so much hate. And they call us weird***

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If they were respectful...they wouldn't be intruding on other people's property repeatedly.

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I finally got them to quit coming by my house when I was in my mid 20's and living in the Lower 9th Ward.

It was early one weekend morning when they woke me after a long, hard week of work. I wasn't happy to begin with and then one of them started quoting the Bible like he was Billy Graham or some other charlatan and I said I wasn't that familiar with the Bible.

Then the dumb arse said "Your ignorance of the Bible" and I heard nothing else after that as I walked outside and tossed one of them off my porch and the other beat feet down the steps. They both climbed on the bicycles and rode off, never to bother me again.