re: On this day in 1945, the city of Nagasaki is wiped off the face of the earth...

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Mass murder done by the United States government

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Yet you're not terrified about political systems (almost always Marxist) that starve, imprison, and kill people by the hundreds of thousands, and millions over time?

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I have zero idea how you took my statement that was marveling at humanities' technological advancements in war.. into making a political statement on political systems.

After seeing Oppenheimer over the weekend, I've come to the conclusion that the reasoning behind building the bomb was sound, beat the Nazi's. Once the bomb was tested, that should have been it. Nazi's were gone, Japan wasn't building one. No possible reason exists to use that much force and unleash what we did on the world.

We've invaded countless times after Japan without stopping to say, "if we use the bomb, we can stop this with less casualties." That's because we've used it already and the shite storm from it will never cease. It boils down to Truman just trying to swing his dick around like a big boy, just like they wanted him to when they railroaded Henry Wallace. They got perpetual war, at the cost of unlocking the deadliest weapon known to man.

We should have bit the bullet, invaded, waited for the Russians to invade, and got the full scale surrender that was coming anyway. Would the Russians have ever gotten the bomb made if we shuttered it after Trinity? Who knows. I don't think they got enough from Fuchs to go full scale. The continued production and testing caused more leaks. Cap it after Trinity, all signs point to...we keep this from ever seeing the light of day in a war time scenario. As it should have been.

I had a late uncle about to graduate Army bootcamp when WWII ended. He was sent to Nagasaki. They had them stay on the ships for two months before disembarking. The guys were never told why but now believe it had to do with the radiation. The thing that he remembered the most was nothing over 6 ft was standing. Interesting enough, the Japanese didn't build weapons and ammunition factories outside of cities. They were built inside so any attack on them would result in civilian casualties.

He was over there destroying weapons and apparently the Japanese had literally cut out large areas inside mountains and installed numerous heavy artillery. Some of those guns he said,(he was a smaller guy and skinny) could practically crawl through. Artillery like that would most certainly pose a nasty threat to ships and landing craft. Most certainly would have made D-day look like a walk in the park.

When first hand account like that is taken and the realization that Japan still controlled the Far East, one realizes those two bombs saved lives.

Just look at how much the Japanese controlled prior to the bombs dropped. Huge eye opener.

war in pacific everday

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Who started it?



Loaded question, but I’ll refer to the simple answer of who declared it.

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Actually, I was referring to those who believe that Pear Harbor was the start.

It wasn't. Pearl Harbor was the Japanese response to U.S. sanctions designed to provoke such a response for the purpose of garnering support for entering WWII.

Similar tactic was used on 9/11 to garner support for a 20-year war in the Middle East.

Also see, Gulf of Tonkin (Vietnam).

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It makes you wonder, spiritually, who would pay for murdering so many innocent people. Is it the people who designed the weapon, the one who ordered its use, or the ones who dropped it? WWGS (what would God say)?

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there's a blockbuster movie right now about this.

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Soviet invasion

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That's why they did it.

Many generals were against the bombing.

They did it because they already split Germany and Europe with the Reds. They didn't wanna split Japan too.

Anyone that says the US shouldn't have done what they did should read up on Japanese Unit 731. Those motherfrickers even made Hitler look nice.

Japan was the equivalent of this towards the end