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re: Old man rant - the new “low watt” light bulbs suck
Posted on 11/15/23 at 6:46 pm to theantiquetiger
Posted on 11/15/23 at 6:46 pm to theantiquetiger
I've tried to hoard 5-10 years worth of incandescent ceiling fan bulbs. The LED ones tend to flicker unless the A/C is absolutely perfect.
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Posted on 11/15/23 at 6:59 pm to Porpus
At a garage sale a few months ago, the guy just replaced his entire house with LED. He had a giant box of new in package and used incandescent bulbs (probably 50-75 bulbs). A guy got them before me for $5
Posted on 11/15/23 at 7:21 pm to RougeDawg
The first thing I noticed was how they dissipate heat. It was so weird to touch the glass and it be cool.
The longest lasting one I’ve had was a Walgreens branded one. They were cheap and I figured what the hell. It wasn’t on 24/7 but was in table lamp that was only on when in use.
The longest lasting one I’ve had was a Walgreens branded one. They were cheap and I figured what the hell. It wasn’t on 24/7 but was in table lamp that was only on when in use.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 7:43 pm to Tempratt
I have discovered that the cheap ones my wife picks up at WalMart don't last. The Phillips one last forever.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 7:55 pm to theantiquetiger
Agreed. They are not worth the price and the quality of lighting is worse.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:00 pm to RonLaFlamme
I don't mind LED as long as it's not the cool bright white. I fricking hate that color on lights. 
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:01 pm to Tempratt
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The first thing I noticed was how they dissipate heat. It was so weird to touch the glass and it be cool.
They don't produce the heat incandescents do. Incandescents produce much more heat than light per watt
I've been wondering for a long time when LED lights would be economically feasible. I hate that the government shoved them down people's throats but they are the better solution.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:10 pm to theantiquetiger
I have incadescents in our house that have lasted over 20 years, albeit in spare bedrooms and bath.
Most incandescents lasted more than 10 even in the master and living room. I don't replace bulbs often enough to care how long they lasted... and 100yr bulbs don't benefit me much. At least prices have come down.
LEDs in the garage door opener prevented my garage door remotes from working properly so went back to incandescent.
Also use incandescents to keep sprinkler pump from possibly freezing in the winter (NW FL).
Bought my last batch off the internet before the ban.
... and like most government action, the ban was BS.
Most incandescents lasted more than 10 even in the master and living room. I don't replace bulbs often enough to care how long they lasted... and 100yr bulbs don't benefit me much. At least prices have come down.
LEDs in the garage door opener prevented my garage door remotes from working properly so went back to incandescent.
Also use incandescents to keep sprinkler pump from possibly freezing in the winter (NW FL).
Bought my last batch off the internet before the ban.
... and like most government action, the ban was BS.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:13 pm to theantiquetiger
I love LED bulbs. Honestly think I've only changed 1 in my house in the past 6 years.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:16 pm to theantiquetiger
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These piece of shite bulbs do not last 10x longer than the incandescent bulbs.
We should all know by now to not trust anything the government says.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:27 pm to theantiquetiger
I had 6 go out at 5 yrs
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:34 pm to theantiquetiger
I have had a far different experience. I replaced all the incandescent bulbs in our house with LED bulbs in September of 2017. We have a chandelier in our great room that I put 6 of these bulbs in:
The first bulb failed last month so they all lasted over 6 years.
That light stays on about 15 hours a day so the dogs have one bright room while we are at work. We travel a good bit so very conservatively that were on 275 days a year. After I looked it up on Amazon and saw they lasted 6 years I was curious how much electricity they saved. I honestly didn't care the main reason I got them was to avoid having to get the 16' ladder out at least once a year because the incandescents were going out all the time.
The 6 incandescents drew 360w compared to the 54w of the 6 60w equivalent LED bulbs. So I rounded to a savings of 300w.
15 hours of 300w savings is 4.5kWh per day x 275 days per
year x 6 years times a very conservative .10 per kWh comes out to a savings of $742.50 over those 6 years.
The pack of 8 bulbs cost me $23.00 total so $17.25 for 6. Outside all the time I would have spent changing incandescent bulbs over the 6 years I still saved over $700 over the time.
I replaced over 100 other bulbs around the house and that one is the only one that has failed. The electricity I saved just in the one fixture paid for all those bulbs more than 2 times over.
My experience is obviously very different than some, it may be the bulbs I bought or I might just be incredibly lucky but my experience has left me in a place that I would not use incandescent bulbs even if I got them for free even if someone paid for the extra electricity just based on the trouble I have saved replacing bulbs in fixtures that are in high ceilings.
The first bulb failed last month so they all lasted over 6 years.
That light stays on about 15 hours a day so the dogs have one bright room while we are at work. We travel a good bit so very conservatively that were on 275 days a year. After I looked it up on Amazon and saw they lasted 6 years I was curious how much electricity they saved. I honestly didn't care the main reason I got them was to avoid having to get the 16' ladder out at least once a year because the incandescents were going out all the time.
The 6 incandescents drew 360w compared to the 54w of the 6 60w equivalent LED bulbs. So I rounded to a savings of 300w.
15 hours of 300w savings is 4.5kWh per day x 275 days per
year x 6 years times a very conservative .10 per kWh comes out to a savings of $742.50 over those 6 years.
The pack of 8 bulbs cost me $23.00 total so $17.25 for 6. Outside all the time I would have spent changing incandescent bulbs over the 6 years I still saved over $700 over the time.
I replaced over 100 other bulbs around the house and that one is the only one that has failed. The electricity I saved just in the one fixture paid for all those bulbs more than 2 times over.
My experience is obviously very different than some, it may be the bulbs I bought or I might just be incredibly lucky but my experience has left me in a place that I would not use incandescent bulbs even if I got them for free even if someone paid for the extra electricity just based on the trouble I have saved replacing bulbs in fixtures that are in high ceilings.
This post was edited on 11/15/23 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:36 pm to theantiquetiger
I am guilty of refitting my house in CREE LED builbs when they were 10 bucks a piece. I bet I spent 500 or more.
No, they are not going to last 20 years. But they are lasting a long time...most of them.
And now the LED bulbs are much cheaper.
And they run MUCH cooler...that is huge when you're trying to cool a house.
No, they are not going to last 20 years. But they are lasting a long time...most of them.
And now the LED bulbs are much cheaper.
And they run MUCH cooler...that is huge when you're trying to cool a house.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:36 pm to Tyga Woods
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I always figured you as the kind of guy that would illuminate his home with lanterns and candelabras. -Tyga Woods
I know it’s got a lot of upvotes already but this is really a good observation and deep chuckle worthy
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:40 pm to RougeDawg
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e LEDs are capable of lasting 10 years. The control chip may not depending on what you paid
99% of the time only one of the LEDs is out. While I have only had one fail having seen YT videos I decided to try to fix it. Once I cracked the code of getting the diffuser off it took a couple of minutes with some very thin wire I stripped out of a piece of 22g stranded wire and some solder to wire around the dead LED (they are wired in series) and the rest worked fine. It is not as bright but it will be fine in some of our lamps.
Apparently, you can usually see the dead one as it will be darker which was the case with mine. I am not really sure it is worth the time but I was just curious.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:43 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:who gives a shite
I've got a toilet from the 70's in my house that is staying with me until I die
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:49 pm to prplhze2000
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If you leave them on all the time, they last a long time. Constantly turning them on and off shortens their life span.
That is a much bigger issue with incandescent bulbs. LEDs can handle being cycled on and off several hundred times a second without issue. That is how they "dim".
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:55 pm to Porpus
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I've tried to hoard 5-10 years worth of incandescent ceiling fan bulbs. The LED ones tend to flicker unless the A/C is absolutely perfect.
In a properly designed driver board AC current issues should never be a problem because the AC is rectified to DC by the board since LEDs run on DC. If their is a dimmer in the circuit (usually true for ceiling fans) the driver senses the reduction in voltage and strobes the LED using pulse width modulation (you can't technically dim them, they are either on or off). So either you are one of the people that are more sensitive to strobing or the bulbs have poorly designed driver boards.
This post was edited on 11/15/23 at 9:00 pm
Posted on 11/15/23 at 9:04 pm to mdomingue
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They don't produce the heat incandescents do. Incandescents produce much more heat than light per watt
Incandescents live perfectly well with that heat, LED's do not. Traditional imcandescents produce a fraction of the waste mass that LED's do too. The quality of light is worse from LED's too and they flicker unless you spend $$ on high quality bulbs. Better solution? Not absolutely. Always pros and cons and they certainly have enough cons.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 9:06 pm to theantiquetiger
I can tell you where they absolutely do not last, and that is outside. They don't like the temperature fluctuation. LEDs also don't seem to like the on/off cycle all that much. I have a lamp in a spare bedroom that stays on, and the LED bulb in it probably 8ish years old. Meanwhile, the same brand elsewhere in the house that gets turned off and on often have been replaced several times.
Add into it that those bulbs don't just burn out, they fade....dimmer and dimmer. That's annoying.
I will say, though, that I have replaced several fixtures with LED light fixtures, the kind with no replaceable bulbs, and I like those. I have had to replace one of those in eight years, but it was a bad ballast (or similar part) that took it out. All the little LEDs were still good.
Add into it that those bulbs don't just burn out, they fade....dimmer and dimmer. That's annoying.
I will say, though, that I have replaced several fixtures with LED light fixtures, the kind with no replaceable bulbs, and I like those. I have had to replace one of those in eight years, but it was a bad ballast (or similar part) that took it out. All the little LEDs were still good.
This post was edited on 11/15/23 at 9:08 pm
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