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re: Okay GM and Toyota, it's now your turn
Posted on 6/29/25 at 10:54 am to Grievous Angel
Posted on 6/29/25 at 10:54 am to Grievous Angel
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The 5.0 in the f150 now has an oil bathed kevlar belt running the oil pump. Not a chain. It also has cylinder deactivation. No, you don't in fact want this engine either.
The GEN3 (2018-2023) 5.0 Coyote does NOT have cylinder deactivation - it's a pure 8-cylinder design with no VDE system. I own a 2022 5.0 and can confirm it does not have VDE or auto start-stop.
The GEN4 F150 (not including Mustang) does have VDE; however, you can run the truck in Sport mode, or Tow/Haul and VDE is disabled.
VDE and AFM (GM) are not the same and function differently.
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Posted on 6/29/25 at 10:55 am to Crappieman
Me and my 5.0 F150 keep humming along
Posted on 6/29/25 at 11:11 am to Crappieman
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Vortec 5.3 L V8
My 04 has 221k on it. That truck will rust out before that engine dies.
Posted on 6/29/25 at 11:17 am to Crappieman
I'd be fine with the 4.8 in a regular cab truck. I had a 4.8 in a 2008 Sierra, it was great truck, should have never got ride if it.
Posted on 6/29/25 at 11:53 am to 3deadtrolls
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Extended cab with the suicide doors, Z71 trim, shite even throw a flowmaster on for the nostalgia.
Keep going I'm almost there
Posted on 6/29/25 at 11:53 am to Crappieman
The GM 5.7 l, 350 cu.in. with a 4 bolt main is a great, reliable engine that is the basis for a lot of aftermarket crate engine suppliers.
Posted on 6/29/25 at 11:54 am to Macfly
The V8 in the Gen ! Tundra, a 4.7L, if I remember, is about as bullet-proof as you can get. The MPG kind of sucks, but it just runs.
Posted on 6/29/25 at 11:54 am to CHEDBALLZ
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I'd be fine with the 4.8 in a regular cab truck. I
I had a single cab 1999 Silverado with that 4.8L. Was the first model year. That truck was “only” 255hp and not a lot of low end torque but it was still quick. Felt so much quicker than the F150 at the time. Of course, I was coming from a 1989 Silverado with the 5.0 which was a complete slug so my point of reference was skewed.
Posted on 6/29/25 at 11:55 am to Butch Baum
Touche
Posted on 6/29/25 at 12:17 pm to Crappieman
Toyota should have offered the 5.7 as an option.
Posted on 6/29/25 at 12:22 pm to Crappieman
Waiting for a Trump executive order that gets rid of DEF
MDEGA!!
MDEGA!!
Posted on 6/29/25 at 12:59 pm to SPEEDY
It takes a lot of money and development for car makers to comply with EPA shite. Trump could issue an executive order that could be reversed by the next administration. Would be best if Congress would do something.
But then again, we have fricking idiots willing to pay $75k for a pickup that cost $45k pre-covid bc they get a 8-year loan.
But then again, we have fricking idiots willing to pay $75k for a pickup that cost $45k pre-covid bc they get a 8-year loan.
Posted on 6/29/25 at 1:02 pm to wileyjones
quote:precisely why they won’t do it. They were hurting business by building trucks that lasted so long. Seems like most of the manufacturers have decided to go to substandard vehicles to ensure more sales sooner because the vehicles have problems with fewer miles.
GX with a V8? Take my money, it’d be my last vehicle purchase
Posted on 6/29/25 at 1:35 pm to armsdealer
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Toyota just needs to bring back the gen 2 Tundra and put the 5.7 in it.
I love the 5.7 & 4.7 Toyota v8’s….beat engines ever made, but not too long ago many people in here were complaining that those same engines were “archaic” & too thirsty.
Posted on 6/29/25 at 2:01 pm to NoBoDawg
My 2016 Tundra 5.7 is thirsty. Gets 14.5mpg. But it’s impressive how solidly built the Gen 2 Tundras were. No squeaks, no rattles, drives like new with 160k miles. And therefore no incentive to buy another truck anytime soon.
Posted on 6/29/25 at 2:05 pm to Crappieman
Had the LY5 5.3L with the original cylinder deactivation. 200k miles and no issues, although it did start burning about a quart of oil between oil changes after 150,000 miles or so. That truck had the 4L80 I think, and it was trouble free….but I flush the transmissions in my trucks every 60,000 miles.
14 years later I bought a truck with the L84 5.3L V8 and the 10 speed transmission.….and it works fine too. No issues at all, and we used the hell out of it. I did get the extended warranty because all of you scared me into it. But the truck has never had an issue at all. Smooth powertrain and decent mileage. I made sure it was one of the models without a variable displacement oil pump (thankfully, all of the new ones are like that but only some of them were built that way a few years ago).
I would not touch the 6.2L with its machined crank, variable displacement oil pump, and Mexican built bearings. And I’d wait a few years before I got a Toyota V35A twin turbo too.
But happily I’d buy another 5.3L L84 with its “cheaper” cast iron crankshaft if they carry it over to the next generation trucks. GM switching away from the variable displacement oil pump with the L84 was a good move and the 5.3L is a great engine for it - better than the 5.3L L83. Probably better than the LY5 5.3L too.
14 years later I bought a truck with the L84 5.3L V8 and the 10 speed transmission.….and it works fine too. No issues at all, and we used the hell out of it. I did get the extended warranty because all of you scared me into it. But the truck has never had an issue at all. Smooth powertrain and decent mileage. I made sure it was one of the models without a variable displacement oil pump (thankfully, all of the new ones are like that but only some of them were built that way a few years ago).
I would not touch the 6.2L with its machined crank, variable displacement oil pump, and Mexican built bearings. And I’d wait a few years before I got a Toyota V35A twin turbo too.
But happily I’d buy another 5.3L L84 with its “cheaper” cast iron crankshaft if they carry it over to the next generation trucks. GM switching away from the variable displacement oil pump with the L84 was a good move and the 5.3L is a great engine for it - better than the 5.3L L83. Probably better than the LY5 5.3L too.
This post was edited on 6/29/25 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 6/29/25 at 2:20 pm to NoBoDawg
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I love the 5.7 & 4.7 Toyota v8’s….beat engines ever made, but not too long ago many people in here were complaining that those same engines were “archaic” & too thirsty.
I think the 4.6L Toyota was better than the 4.7L just by virtue of having a timing chain instead of a belt. But they were all excellent motors.
Better than the V35A twin turbo they use now, but I think Toyota will figure that one out eventually.
Posted on 6/29/25 at 2:32 pm to Crappieman
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Bring back the Vortec 5.3 L V8 and the 5.7 L V8, along with those older transmissions. Return to making trucks that are trouble free and last 250,000 miles or more.
Never had the 5.7L Toyota but I heard good things. We have a 4.0L V6 in our 4Runner and we love it. But I wish it had about 30 more horsepower. It struggles a bit with the trailer.
We’ve had a couple of 5.3L V8 powered GM trucks over the years including a 2023 model Yukon that we have now. They’ve both been great vehicles with excellent powertrains. I love the longevity, durability, and the smooth/linear power delivery of the 5.3L V8 and I’d buy another one in a heartbeat. 150,000-200,000 miles isn’t really a big deal for them if they are maintained.
Our newer one has direct injection but the carbon build up doesn’t seem to be an issue with it like they are on the turbocharged German engines or our old turbo Volvo.
Maybe I am just a happy customer, but I would hope GM doesn’t change the 5.3L engine very much. I’m sure they can get more power out of it if they wanted to, but it’s always worked very well for us.
Posted on 6/29/25 at 2:37 pm to member12
I drive a 21 Ram w/ 5.7 Hemi and the etorque. I don’t know why the etorque gets so much hate. I think it’s mostly from ppl who don’t own one and just hate the idea of auto start stop. It’s by far the best and most thought out system on the market. It’s smooth, quiet. And almost imperceptible. PLUS it fixes the Hemi’s most notorious problem…the hemi tick which is purportedly caused by high engine idle times. My next truck will be another Ram w/ the hemi when they start to make em again. I’m gonna wait a year after the re-launch of the hemi to make sure they get the bugs worked out with the new electrical system.
Posted on 6/29/25 at 2:40 pm to Grievous Angel
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The 5.0 in the f150 now has an oil bathed kevlar belt running the oil pump.
Knowing Ford’s history with the wet belts in the Ecoboost motors…I’d understand your concern. Fibers from the belt would clog the oil passages and ruin the engine well before the belt was supposed to be changed.
Honda, VW, and GM have models in the US and/or Europe and haven’t seen those issues. I don’t think it’s been an issue with Ford either for years now. I don’t like the design, but they seem to have all figured out how to make it work.
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