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Oil prices to keep falling as demand weakens, says IEA head

Posted on 9/13/24 at 7:34 am
Posted by ragincajun03
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Posted on 9/13/24 at 7:34 am
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Oil prices are likely to keep falling, the head of the International Energy Agency has said, as producers continue to pump volumes that exceed global demand.

“Given the current weak demand and lots of oil coming from the non-Opec countries, mainly from America and others, we may well see downward pressure on the price,” said Fatih Birol.

The bearish comments come after a turbulent fortnight in oil markets, with the price of benchmark Brent crude falling by more than $10 a barrel to tumble below $70 on Tuesday for the first time in nearly three years.

The mood among traders and speculators has turned sharply in recent weeks on fears of weaker growth in China and the US, prompting Opec to delay a plan to start reversing more than 2mn barrels a day of cuts. Birol spoke as the IEA released its latest monthly report on the oil market, which noted that oil demand in the first six months of the year grew at the slowest pace since the Covid-19 pandemic.

The main reason for the slower growth of the oil market is China, he said. “In the last 10 years, around 60 per cent of global oil demand growth has come from China. Now the Chinese economy is slowing down,” Birol said.



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One year ago, Birol wrote in the Financial Times that the demand for fossil fuels would peak this decade. The IEA believes that oil demand is growing at a slower average rate this year of 900,000 b/d, compared with an increase of more than 2mn b/d in 2023. Total oil consumption will reach 103mn b/d this year, it said.

When it first cut its forecasts 15 months ago, the agency was widely criticised for being too bearish but, with only three months of the year left, Birol said it had proved accurate.

“We got some pushback from some corners with suggestions that our numbers were a result of some energy transition wishful thinking,” Birol said.

Opec had accused the IEA of peddling a “dangerous”, “anti-oil” narrative. The IEA is an arm of the OECD think-tank that was set up to ensure energy security.

Birol said lower oil prices could revive demand next year, but there would still be headwinds from slower growth in China and the further take-up of electric cars across the world. Brent was trading at about $71.50 on Thursday.



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Crawfish gonna be 99 cents a pound this Spring, baws!

But some of us won't be able to buy any if we get laid off.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/13/24 at 7:39 am to
I remember being worried about the Chinese economy, crazy to think it's starting to fall apart.
Posted by Gifman
Member since Jan 2021
17028 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 7:42 am to
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I remember being worried about the Chinese economy, crazy to think it's starting to fall apart.


They're economy is going to shrink massively over the next two decades. That one-child policy they used to have is starting to bite them in the arse.
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 9/13/24 at 7:43 am to
Yep.

I can't believe more people don't understand this.
Posted by geauxtigers87
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
26695 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 7:43 am to
china is right on schedule. If you can't feed and fuel yourself in the next couple of decades, you're fricked

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/13/24 at 7:48 am to
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They're economy is going to shrink massively over the next two decades. That one-child policy they used to have is starting to bite them in the arse.

That's going to kill their economy, but these new issues aren't even that.

Lots of people like to shite on the US economy and public debt and think we're some outlier, when we're typically nowhere near as bad as any other developed country. China, Europe, etc. have more "fake" economies and public debt issues (without a military to enforce things).
Posted by Jcorye1
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Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 7:55 am to
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Lots of people like to shite on the US economy and public debt and think we're some outlier, when we're typically nowhere near as bad as any other developed country. China, Europe, etc. have more "fake" economies and public debt issues (without a military to enforce things).


Unfortunately history has show what struggling countries do, and it's warfare. On one hand, dead bodies, on the other, Europe will get to feel what it's like to actually have to pay for defense instead of social programs.
Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
1154 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 7:57 am to
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That's going to kill their economy, but these new issues aren't even that.

Lots of people like to shite on the US economy and public debt and think we're some outlier, when we're typically nowhere near as bad as any other developed country. China, Europe, etc. have more "fake" economies and public debt issues (without a military to enforce things).


Our debt to GDP ratio is not among the best, but our saving grace is that our growth is steady, and outpaces much if not all of the developed world. We end up towing a lot of the fake and/or more socialist economies along with us. For example, if we stopped buying German cars tomorrow, they would collapse in a shambles overnight.
Posted by stout
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 9/13/24 at 8:00 am to
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China, Europe, etc. have more "fake" economies and public debt issues (without a military to enforce things)



This meme is more true than people realize



Posted by OysterPoBoy
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Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 9/13/24 at 8:02 am to
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Crawfish gonna be 99 cents a pound this Spring, baws!


Too much rain.
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
6945 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 8:06 am to
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I remember being worried about the Chinese economy, crazy to think it's starting to fall apart.


Rickshaw nuts ON[OFF]
Posted by geauxtigers87
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
26695 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 8:10 am to
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Rickshaw nuts ON[OFF]


Posted by TigersBucs
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Member since Oct 2009
1751 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 8:16 am to
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Crawfish gonna be 99 cents a pound this Spring, baws!


They will have yet another excuse, probably weather related, and the prices will be $20-$25/lb.
Posted by Cosmo
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Member since Oct 2003
128895 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 8:32 am to
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Lots of people like to shite on the US economy and public debt and think we're some outlier, when we're typically nowhere near as bad as any other developed country.


I keep saying this

As bad as our monetary policy is most every other country is worse
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
15810 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 8:42 am to
The dollar is backed by our military and especially our nuclear threat

That’s what many simply don’t understand
Posted by Gee Grenouille
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Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 9/13/24 at 8:44 am to
Just stay as close to the LACT unit as possible.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27258 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 8:51 am to
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Just stay as close to the LACT unit as possible.


Which side? Producer or midstream/takeaway?
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
11585 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 8:53 am to
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I remember being worried about the Chinese economy, crazy to think it's starting to fall apart.

Demographic time bomb.
Posted by evil cockroach
27.98N // 86.92E
Member since Nov 2007
8852 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 8:59 am to
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Just stay as close to the LACT unit as possible.
this.

Eta: the “Safety Engineer” and “Compensation Analyst” may be in trouble. The guy that gets on the helicopter on Friday with one day notice will be fine.
This post was edited on 9/13/24 at 9:01 am
Posted by Gee Grenouille
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Member since Jul 2018
7509 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 9:04 am to
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Which side? Producer or midstream/takeaway?


Producer is definitely good, midstream will probably be fine too. The plugs are getting whacked.
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