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re: Oil change shop air filter up charge….WTF

Posted on 1/16/24 at 7:54 pm to
Posted by BHM
Member since Jun 2012
3158 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 7:54 pm to
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Take 5 oil change?


Went to the new one in Broussard a few weeks ago. Shows me the air filter and then goes into his rehearsed speech about how it will cause my engine to overheat.

Told him he is either repeating his lines wrong or corporate needs to try a better script.
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
5778 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 7:57 pm to
V8 needs 9 quarts of synthetic oil and the filter. That’s about $90 roughly. Dealer just charged me $122 including tax. For $40 and the thorough review on the rack, I’ll pay $40 more and not having to dispose of used oil.
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 6:54 am
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39443 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 8:04 pm to
Get an EV, bruh. No oil, no gasoline, and no air filters. Come hang out with us at the Tesla charging station southside of Chicago. It’s like a party here right now.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40818 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 8:24 pm to
My wife took her car to a local oil change place. They told her that her windshield wipers were dry rotted......I just changed them the day before.
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
9211 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 8:47 pm to
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My wife took her car to a local oil change place. They told her that her windshield wipers were dry rotted......I just changed them the day before.




About 4 years ago I was at the local Jiffy lube for an oil change. I had JUST put new wiper blades on the week before and ol boy comes in and says "sir, your wiper blades are looking rough, would you like me to pop some new ones on for you?".

I smiled and said no thank you. After the oil change was done I went two stores down to the Autozone and bought an oil catch basin and ramps and started changing my own oil.

My truck has a two inch lift so I don't even need the ramps for it. I can change my oil, Mobil 1 full synth, a OEM Toyota filter, and FRAM air filter for around $50 in under 30 minutes.

I have to use the ramps for the wife's Audi but it's still around 3 minutes and definitely cheaper than paying someone else.

I also so my own brakes, shocks, and other medium level repairs. YouTube and Tacoma World are great for how to videos.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69122 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 8:54 pm to
I brought my car to the dealership for its first oil change. They tried selling me on a filter.
I agreed then they said "we don't have it but we're going to get one from Advanced Auto Parts". I said never mind and went to advance and bought the filter myself. When I went to change it o realized the dealer had shown me a totally different air filter.
I never went back for any more "free" oil changes.

Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69122 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 8:57 pm to
I like changing my own oil. I like looking at the oil looking for glitter in the oil. I like to see if it smells or feels odd. A lot of things you can tell about oil. Plus you know if you mess up or use the right oil.
Like for Toyota I only use OE filters. For BMW only Mann filters and Liquid moly oil.
I also send every 3 or 4th oil change sample out to be tested.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
1211 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 9:02 pm to
believe it or not, the prices jiffy lube places charge for an oil change is artificially low. The make them low so they can get you in a make their profits on other things. No business could sustain itself on oil changes alone. My advice would be to avoid these places and either pay your normal mechanic his shop rate to do it or change it yourself. The people that work at these places aren't someone you want touching your car for any reason anyway.
Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
Member since Jun 2009
31055 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 9:10 pm to
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PSA: Don't buy this guy's used vehicles.


My vehicle is recommended every 15-20k miles for an oil change.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
1211 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 9:34 pm to
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My vehicle is recommended every 15-20k miles for an oil change.




Sounds like the perfect interval to clear the manufacturer's warranty.

You don't care if the engine doesn't live any longer than the warranty, right?
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56065 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 9:50 pm to
I’d make sure those mother frickers were on the news that night…and would call the owner to be sure he was watching.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
18775 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 11:19 pm to
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I also send every 3 or 4th oil change sample out to be tested.


Where do you send it, and what is it tested for?
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28949 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 11:35 pm to
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Ain't nobody tryin to change their own oil in 2024.


I changed the oil in all my vehicles for 20 years but when my wife got a traverse it became almost impossible to get in there and do it so I gave up. I made my son do it once on his 2013 dodge Ram and then said FTS.

I’m happy to spend an hour doing it. I’m not happy to spend 2.5 hours and having to buy new tools.

In my 2002 trail blazer I could get to anything and replaced just about everything myself but I couldn’t get to a thing in any newer cars.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
58305 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:04 am to
I thought such shitty behavior was pretty much expected at these quick lube type places? Just tell them to frick off and move on or don't go there

I almost never go to one
Posted by Eightballjacket
Member since Jan 2016
7319 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:58 am to
I let the quick oil change place change my air filter one time only because the tech “overlooked” the huge crack in my windshield while getting a new inspection sticker. It was $30 well spent. His co-worker would not give me a new inspection sticker because of the crack just a few days earlier.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7169 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 5:39 am to
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So I’m at an oil change shop in the bay waiting for them to change my oil. Haven’t even opened my hood yet. Technician comes over to my window with an air filter, shows it to me and recommends that it be changed. I decline and watch him take the filter to the adjacent vehicle and reinstall it where he got it from.


Thats nothing compared to what they are doing to your vehicle while they are under it. At best they will use a battery drill if not an impact wrench to tighten up the drain plug and strip it out...usually just bad enough that it will not remain tight and will start leaking oil. Most vehicles require engine removal to correct that. I know several people this has happened to. Change you own oil...it takes about an hour from start to finish and it will be done right.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61713 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 5:39 am to
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how was your first kneejerk reaction not "uh, my hood is still closed"?


Or you could have made him a bet.


I will buy a new air filter from you, if you can make that one fit inside my housing....

Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7169 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 5:41 am to
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Ain't nobody tryin to change their own oil in 2024.


I do. I do ours, my son's, my niece and three neighbors. It is quicker to do it yourself than it is to go to any oil change place I ever went to and I ain't ever stripped out an oil pan plug or worse an oil pump filter fitting.
Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
Member since Jun 2009
31055 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 5:41 am to
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You don't care if the engine doesn't live any longer than the warranty, right?


Using synthetic, it really doesn’t bother me. I would guess most American made vehicles these days are recommended at 5-7K mile intervals. A lot of people who had vehicles back in the 90’s, 00’s, were trained to get an oil change every 3k miles. That’s just not the case on all vehicles now.

Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7169 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 5:52 am to
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Take it to the dealership for oil changes. If you have issues that arise post warranty, dealers and the automaker can pull up service history and provide assistance if needed.
If you diy oil changes make sure you keep receipts and note the mileage.


Only with a reputable dealer. I bought a F250 Gas truck in 2014 and at 16K miles the engine had to be replaced. Bearings failed. At about 25K it started doing the same thing. Dealer said it was due to inadequate oil changes. When I mentioned that if the oil had been changed wrong or inadequately they had done it and I had the receipts to prove it they backed away from that and claimed the vehicle had more miles on it than the odometer read. Again, I pointed out to them that were that they case they sold it that way. As it turns out the manufacturer, knowing that dealers CAN adjust odometers on digital odometers far easier than they could with analog odometers can read an odometer remotely from the vehicles onboard computer. Only the manufacturer can do this, none of their service departments have the technology to do it because the manufacturer uses it to ensure the dealer is not screwing the manufacturer. The odometer was right as rain. Dealer still wanted $5K to replace the engine...something about consumables LOL. Ford finally bought the truck back and I bought a GMC. That truck sat on the used car lot at that dealer about 3 days and they had sold it to another buyer so Ford was AT least complacent in that. They may have put a motor in it but they tried to talk me into allowing them to replace the bearings in the chasis instead of replacing the motor. That used to be fairly common when engines were worn out at 100K miles but the expectation to day is that an engine should last far longer than that...and it is damned near impossible to change bearings with no machining and machining in place, where technically possible, is not practical nor sufficiently accurate.

Dealership service departments are often only cursorily associated with the dealership...they are, in my experience, far more corrupt than a local repair shop with a good reputation.
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