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re: Oh poor thing - Beyonce 'did not feel welcomed' in country music
Posted on 3/21/24 at 1:03 pm to poochie
Posted on 3/21/24 at 1:03 pm to poochie
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You don’t have to call me Charlie Pride…..
Entertainer of the Year by The Country Music Association in 71, Best Country Music Vocal Performance, Male in 72, inducted into The Country Music Hall of Fame in 2000.
I was a teenager when Charlie Pride was making his way in country music and like many white guys at the time I was really surprised that he chose that genre, or should I say "It chose him" to make his mark as a singer---------and boy, did he.
I've been a fan of Charlie Pride since I first heard him all those years ago and he had a long string of hits to his credit.
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 1:59 pm to TN Tygah
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Whites invented the Moog, a Japanese guy invented the 808, but no one is ever going to say hip hop was invented by a white and Japanese guy.
Do tell us not in the music know what these are and how hip hop derived from them, so we can start to...
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say hip hop was invented by a white and Japanese guy.
Grazie
Posted on 3/21/24 at 2:02 pm to FLTech
As I recall Steven Tyler’s trip round the country block didn’t go well either.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 2:18 pm to FLTech
I feel sorry for her.
She's only worth about a billion dollars. And the Grammy's have practically ignored her, giving her only 30-40 awards.
One day, she'll overcome.
She's only worth about a billion dollars. And the Grammy's have practically ignored her, giving her only 30-40 awards.
One day, she'll overcome.
This post was edited on 3/21/24 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 3/21/24 at 2:21 pm to FLTech
It’s called staying in your lane. Country fans tend to be more on the conservative side. When you or any other established artists shows up wearing a costume and performing a tune everyone knows you didn’t write people tend to assume you’re making fun of them not trying to be part of the culture. It’d be no different than an Alan Jackson or whoever dropping a rap tune, dressed in Timbs and rocking braids/ cornrows.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 2:28 pm to riverparish
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Didn't feel welcome? How about go and talk to Eminem.
Or Caitlyn Clark.
Black people are angry a white girl is better than them in a sport created by white people.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 2:29 pm to FLTech
That song is literally the worst I have ever heard in my life.
I cannot believe how bad it is.
I cannot believe how bad it is.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 2:39 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Can't let whitey have anything to himself, but we can have all-black sororities, dorms, safe spaces, etc
Posted on 3/21/24 at 2:46 pm to FLTech
Hootie was accepted in country music. She’s is not feeling that way because of her skin color. She’s feeling that way because people think she’s a count.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 3:12 pm to Tasseo
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Do tell us not in the music know what these are and how hip hop derived from them, so we can start to...
Curious as to how you don’t see it’s a direct comparison to the banjo and country music. Country didn’t even start on a banjo. It’s just a thing that’s in country music. The pedal steel isn’t even an original country music instrument.
There are way more 808’s and Moog bass lines (and synths altogether) in the start of hip hop. White people pioneered electronic music which was essential to the creation of hip hop. You will not find a single rap or hip hop record that doesn’t use an 808 / 909 and a synth bass and it’s even more a part of that music than the banjo is of country. But, like I said, white people were behind it, so it doesn’t count.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 3:54 pm to FLTech
Which song did she sing that is claiming to be country.
I’ve heard 5 seconds of “This ain’t Texas” and all I got was “this ain’t country”.
I’ve heard 5 seconds of “This ain’t Texas” and all I got was “this ain’t country”.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 3:57 pm to gumbo2176
I’m going assume downvotes here but…
I think a lot of y’all are off on using Charlie Pride as an example against Beyoncé. Both Charlie Pride and Freddy Fender were minorities who made inroads into country music, but they didn’t blaze any sort of trail for more minority singers after them. They were outliers.
I’m not agreeing with her that somewhere there is some conspiracy to excluded black people from country music. I think that Darius Rucker is a much better example though.
I think a lot of y’all are off on using Charlie Pride as an example against Beyoncé. Both Charlie Pride and Freddy Fender were minorities who made inroads into country music, but they didn’t blaze any sort of trail for more minority singers after them. They were outliers.
I’m not agreeing with her that somewhere there is some conspiracy to excluded black people from country music. I think that Darius Rucker is a much better example though.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 4:04 pm to GumboPot
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Plus the music has to not suck.
This. You can't just throw on a cowboy hat and pretend to be a country artist. Her country music just sucks, and she went way too deep into trying to look the part. It just comes off as contrived and extremely fake.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 4:11 pm to TigerFanatic99
quote:I think this is the bigger issue. Maybe she is a real country and western fan, but this Texas song is just lame and doesn’t exactly reek of authenticity.
It just comes off as contrived and extremely fake.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 4:20 pm to FLTech
We all have the ability to stop this stuff, by simply not caring. Who really gives a shite? This stuff is meant to rile people up. If you don't get riled up it's meaningless.
Her grandparents are from the Berry.
Her grandparents are from the Berry.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 4:31 pm to alajones
Everybody liked them both, but no one else (minority-wise) really tried to follow them. There wasn't a concerted effort to exclude anyone, at least to my knowledge.
Country wasn't considered a cool format back then.
( I was a radio DJ in late 70s-early 80s)
Country wasn't considered a cool format back then.
( I was a radio DJ in late 70s-early 80s)
Posted on 3/21/24 at 4:35 pm to alajones
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I think a lot of y’all are off on using Charlie Pride as an example against Beyoncé. Both Charlie Pride and Freddy Fender were minorities who made inroads into country music, but they didn’t blaze any sort of trail for more minority singers after them. They were outliers.
I’m not agreeing with her that somewhere there is some conspiracy to excluded black people from country music. I think that Darius Rucker is a much better example though.
I don't understand this loud group of people who need there to be more minorities in country music, country is consumed mostly by white Americans.
There just aren't going to be a lot of minorities who grown up listening to country organically and thus gravitate toward becoming a country artist. Many of the ones we do see, are trying to crossover from another genre which is always tough, regardless of color.
As an aside, it's interesting that so many whites do consume hip hop yet whites are barely represented within the genre as artists.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 4:37 pm to FLTech
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various media outlets questioned whether she could overcome
As per usual, this "claim" is solely coming from the media, as it peddles is racist narrative to divide us.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 5:56 pm to alajones
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I think a lot of y’all are off on using Charlie Pride as an example against Beyoncé. Both Charlie Pride and Freddy Fender were minorities who made inroads into country music, but they didn’t blaze any sort of trail for more minority singers after them. They were outliers.
Guess you don't realize the climate of the times when Charlie Pride and Freddy Fender were making inroads in country music. There was so much racial tension back then---WAY more than there is now even though so many blacks will want you to think otherwise.
It was a hell of a lot harder for them to do what they did under the societal situations they faced. Hell, there were times Charlie Pride couldn't even get hotel rooms with the crew he was traveling with when on tour due to being black.
It took Faron Young on several occasions to threaten some businesses to get them to comply and he became one of Charlie Pride's best friends.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 6:02 pm to gumbo2176
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It took Faron Young on several occasions to threaten some businesses to get them to comply and he became one of Charlie Pride's best friends.
Yup.
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