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re: Oh no Toyota bros...

Posted on 11/7/25 at 11:11 am to
Posted by slidingstop
Member since Jan 2025
1598 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 11:11 am to
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Ford transmissions are complete shite. You get 100k miles and then have to spend 5k or more to replace it. They know its an issue, but they don't care.


GM says hello on this component as well.
Posted by plaric
Pike Road, Alabama
Member since Jun 2011
2266 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 11:16 am to
I had a 2022 Tundra 1794 Edition that I absolutely adored. Never had any issues with it. Toyota made me replace the motor in it because it was part of the recall and that it would eventually have issues.

Mechanic fricked it up and had issues immediately and they started giving me the run around so I made them buy it back. Loving my 2024 Ford F-150 Raptor R though.

I have always been a big fan of Toyota's but this last experience just rubbed me the wrong way.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18728 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 11:21 am to
quote:

they had head gasket issues on the 3.0’s but stood behind them via recall for at least 11 years,


They had more than that wrong. My family had two Toyotas in the mid-1990's, a 4Runner that grenaded its engine and a Camry that had door hinges that would come loose. It was a fight to get both vehicles fixed under warranty.
Posted by Enadious
formerly B5Lurker City of Central
Member since Aug 2004
18473 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 11:26 am to
I bought a 2021 new to replace my 80K 2012. The idea was to buy my last truck (at 62) before i can't drive or die, and to avoid the shite-storm I believed the new models would have.
Posted by Crappieman
Member since Apr 2025
1578 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 11:29 am to
Just replace them with the old reliable 5.7.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30448 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 11:38 am to
There is a country song about a guy driving a Ridgeline. I thought it was. GM vs Chevy. And Chevy/gm. Vs Ford. In truck wars? When did this ghey jap trucks get into the truck war?
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29382 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 11:40 am to
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How hard is it to clean out machining debris?
Hire a minimum wage employee with a vacuum or power washer?


....this is why it's hard. Because retards exist who believe this is how you would remove machining debris.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29382 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 11:47 am to
quote:

They had more than that wrong. My family had two Toyotas in the mid-1990's, a 4Runner that grenaded its engine and a Camry that had door hinges that would come loose. It was a fight to get both vehicles fixed under warranty.


It's very hard to trust you when you make mechanical statements on the outdoor board that are completely nonsensical

My personal favorite was shitting on "the aisin transmission that nissan used" ...only nissan never used the transmission. Toyota, suzuki, gm, and chrysler did, in applications from 2k lbs to 5.5k lbs being pushed by anywhere from 60 hp to 340 hp... With one of the lowest failure rates of any auto transmission ever built.

So were those two vehicles toyotas? Were they really? Or was that camry really a model T? And that 4runner really an international harvester?

Toyota has made mistakes recently. It will be interesting to see how they fix the issue as well.as the damage to their reputation.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18728 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 11:53 am to
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My personal favorite was shitting on "the aisin transmission that nissan used" ...only nissan never used the transmission. Toyota, suzuki, gm, and chrysler did, in applications from 2k lbs to 5.5k lbs being pushed by anywhere from 60 hp to 340 hp... With one of the lowest failure rates of any auto transmission ever built.

So were those two vehicles toyotas? Were they really? Or was that camry really a model T? And that 4runner really an international harvester?



I was mistaken on the exact of whatever slushbox the Titan first used but I am certainly not mistaken that it and the rear axle assembly were weak and I was on the Titan formums back then when owners were trying out aftermarket power mods and finding out, aside from the limitations in tuning the ECU, that the transmission and rear end broke down pretty quickly.


quote:

Toyota has made mistakes recently. It will be interesting to see how they fix the issue as well.as the damage to their reputation.


Toyota is not new to making mistakes, maybe if your head wasn't stuck in your own arse and could do a little honest research you'd understand this. Hard to trust the willfully ignorant to do what's right though...
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
15638 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 11:55 am to
At least Toyota actually issues recalls and addresses their problems.
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
15042 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 12:00 pm to
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Engine failures again caused by turbos. The toyota bros told us these were nothing to worry about and everything had been fixed.

Is this supposed to be a flex of some sort? If so, it's a huge fail. Congratulations.
(NOT a Toyota bro.)
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29382 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

I was mistaken on the exact of whatever slushbox the Titan first used but I am certainly not mistaken that it and the rear axle assembly were weak and I was on the Titan formums back then when owners were trying out aftermarket power mods and finding out, aside from the limitations in tuning the ECU, that the transmission and rear end broke down pretty quickly.


At least you admit the mistake. The issue can actually be more attributed to the japs lying to everyone, even Jatco who was building their transmission, about how much power the truck actually made.

Ford is doing the same thing now with the 7.3. It's gonna bite them sooner or later. Underrating the trucks by 20-30% makes no sense.

quote:

Toyota is not new to making mistakes,


Agreed. What they are new to is repeating the same mistake. There was a time when that turbo failure would have caused them to completely review every single component and process of that powertrain... Those days are done. For all manufacturers unfortunately. Laziness or apathy. Who knows.

ETA: 202k miles this morning on the old 5.6. 6300rpm earlier because some lady decided to change lanes at 60 mph to try to hit me. No concerns.

Why can't any one just build something reliable anymore.
This post was edited on 11/7/25 at 12:05 pm
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26320 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

This isn’t because of turbos it’s because of engine debris left during the machining process.



That's what Toyota is telling regulators at least.

They also had some quiet part number changes about a year ago - thrust bearings and main bearing components. So they may have done a material change or a subtle redesign to a couple of pieces.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16233 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 12:19 pm to
Mine still hasn't been hit by the recall but wouldn't shock me if it wasn't coming soon.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32998 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

Engine failures again caused by turbos.


Bottom end issues, not turbo issues. Although those engines did have a lot of turbo failures as well.

We aren't talking about a problematic engine. We are talking about what is likely the worst on the market in a long time. Toyota's 3.4L Twin Turbo motors built before mid 2024 will fail prematurely. It's not a matter of if....but when. If you have one, get the motor replaced at a reputable dealer that won't scratch up your vehicle or screw up the reassembly.

The recalls are getting entirely new crate engines. I would have no issues with that. It would annoy me but that's the right way to handle it.

The many thousands of non-recalled ones that fail are getting rebuilds, which IMO is not acceptable. If they say that manufacturing processes caused this - I can promise that a dealership service dept floor will be far more inconsistent than a factory.
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
13265 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 12:28 pm to
27k miles and no issues.
---27k miles is why
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32998 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

So I have 80k on my ‘23 tundra and they are gonna give me a brand new engine? My vin matches the new range.


Yes - crate engine swap.

If you are not in the recall window and it seizes, you are stuck with a rebuild done by the dealer.
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
23863 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

27k miles and no issues.
---27k miles is why


Could be. When are the problems supposed to arise? After I posted, I went look at my app and indeed, have a recall notification and call the dealer...
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3719 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 1:05 pm to
I really am curious:

A guy can purchase a gently used 2020 Eau De Naturale V8 Platinum trim crew cab for less than a new base-ish turbo model Tundra

Peace of mind that it will make 250k-300k miles and proven solid truck.

To each his own it’s a free country blah blah blah, but unless you are competing with the Jones, why get a new Tundra?

If it were me I’d purchase the 2020, but I’m open to arguments otherwise.
This post was edited on 11/7/25 at 1:06 pm
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
23863 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

If it were me I’d purchase the 2020, but I’m open to arguments otherwise.


People want new cars
People have a ahrd time paying what used trucks are commanding

I sold my LX570 with 235K on the clock for a GX twin turbo V6 that is likely getting recalled. Do I have regrets? some, but that is life. Hindsight, I would have kept the care and refurbished the interior.

cest la vie
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