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re: Officer shoots homeowner after responding to a false alarm from alarm company (video)
Posted on 7/29/19 at 2:46 pm to GetCocky11
Posted on 7/29/19 at 2:46 pm to GetCocky11
That is absolutely awful.
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Posted on 7/29/19 at 2:48 pm to LSUA 75
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Some policemen shouldn’t be policemen.Unfortunately many police departments are having to lower their standards,have to take what they can get due to lack of applicants.
X'S A BILLION!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but also, exactly who even wants to be a police officer.. especially today..
I wish they had better situational awareness.. these are people with authority carrying guns making these decisions.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 2:51 pm to Athis
i guess we would be asking too much if we expected cops to think on their feet
Posted on 7/29/19 at 2:57 pm to celltech1981
What a terrible situation all around. And IMO the alarm company deserves blame too if all they said is “silent alarm” instead of a medical one.
Cop should have used some common sense and the homeowner was not in the wrong at all. And the homeowner is 100% right when he said “it’s midnight and I was asleep and you are at my house.”
That was kinda heartbreaking hearing him say “You shot me and I’m gonna die. I can’t believe you did this to me.” That is awful. I’m glad he apparently survived. And he definitely deserves a large settlement.
Cop should have used some common sense and the homeowner was not in the wrong at all. And the homeowner is 100% right when he said “it’s midnight and I was asleep and you are at my house.”
That was kinda heartbreaking hearing him say “You shot me and I’m gonna die. I can’t believe you did this to me.” That is awful. I’m glad he apparently survived. And he definitely deserves a large settlement.
This post was edited on 7/29/19 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 7/29/19 at 3:25 pm to GetCocky11
Why did the homeowner not let the police know he was inside? And why was he walking around inside of his home with a gun if it was only a MEDICAL false alarm? Why do you need to pull a gun for a medical alarm?
I mean the Cops responded to an alarm. They get there and see a dude walking in front of a window with a gun. They were probably pretty confused as to why the homeowner would have a gun in this situation, so they likely assumed it wasn't the homeowner. If you're a Cop and see a guy with a gun walking past you in a window (without identifying himself), your first instinct is to shoot.
Weird situation all around, but I must say the homeowner fricked up here. When you see a Cop at your front door, it's best to just open the door and talk instead of walking by him in a window with a gun waving around.
BTW, I hate home alarms - they are good for nothing but false alarms. How often do they stop burglaries or home invasions? Probably not often.
I mean the Cops responded to an alarm. They get there and see a dude walking in front of a window with a gun. They were probably pretty confused as to why the homeowner would have a gun in this situation, so they likely assumed it wasn't the homeowner. If you're a Cop and see a guy with a gun walking past you in a window (without identifying himself), your first instinct is to shoot.
Weird situation all around, but I must say the homeowner fricked up here. When you see a Cop at your front door, it's best to just open the door and talk instead of walking by him in a window with a gun waving around.
BTW, I hate home alarms - they are good for nothing but false alarms. How often do they stop burglaries or home invasions? Probably not often.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 3:28 pm to AUstar
That is one of the stupidest takes I have seen here.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 3:31 pm to BuckyCheese
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That is one of the stupidest takes I have seen here.
So you think it's wise to go to your front door with a gun when a Cop is sitting on your porch? Cops are ambushed and killed almost daily. They don't like it when people approach them with guns.
Moreover, the alarm company said they repeatedly tried to contact this guy but got no answer. It seems to me that due diligence was done by both the alarm company and the Police here.
What, do you NOT want the cops to show up when your alarm goes off? What's the point of the alarm again?
Posted on 7/29/19 at 3:32 pm to AUstar
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Why did the homeowner not let the police know he was inside?
0 legal obligation to... and absolutely heard no noise from the officer identifying himself as law enforcement in the video. It was conveniently silent to start off.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 3:33 pm to AUstar
Homeowner does not have an alarm. Police are now claiming someone in the house had an alarm app on their phone that sent out the errant call.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 3:35 pm to AUstar
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AUstar
I honestly did not expect someone to blame the homeowner. The OT truly doesn't cease to amaze sometimes.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 3:40 pm to AUstar
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They don't like it when people approach them with guns
“Approach them”? The dude was standing inside of his house at midnight after being awoken to some random stranger outside of his house. I think I even heard him say he uses a CPAP machine and that is likely why no contact could be made with the homeowners (aren’t those loud?
You’re acting like this dude was in the wrong for arming himself inside of his home (which is perfectly legal) because someone was at his front door at midnight. Also all the while he had zero reason to suspect a cop to be at his house.
Shirley, you can’t be serious.
This post was edited on 8/6/19 at 9:50 am
Posted on 7/29/19 at 3:43 pm to AUstar
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So you think it's wise to go to your front door with a gun when a Cop is sitting on your porch?
So your take is a homeowner woken up at midnight by their doorbell and takes their gun with them to the door and try to ascertain who the frick is at their door is fair game for an unidentified cop the VICTIM here is INSIDE his house? Then it is just cool for the department to say he opened the door and was aiming the gun at the officer when he was shot when the body cam CLEARLY shows what actually happened.
You might wanna stand down on this one.
This post was edited on 7/29/19 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 7/29/19 at 3:55 pm to AUstar
quote:The guy said he doesn't even have an alarm.
Moreover, the alarm company said they repeatedly tried to contact this guy but got no answer.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 3:55 pm to Obtuse1
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You might wanna stand down on this one.
I think he's on to something here, and this thread needs some more brilliance
Posted on 7/29/19 at 3:56 pm to AUstar
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It seems to me that due diligence was done by both the alarm company and the Police here.
Clearly
Posted on 7/29/19 at 3:57 pm to GetCocky11
Its a screwed up situation.
Homeowner should and will get paid....department will need to evaluate the officer's fitness for duty.
Claiming the officer should be arrested is silly.
Homeowner should and will get paid....department will need to evaluate the officer's fitness for duty.
Claiming the officer should be arrested is silly.
This post was edited on 7/29/19 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 7/29/19 at 4:04 pm to CocomoLSU
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You’re acting like this dude was in the wrong for arming himself inside of his home (which is perfectly legal) because someone was at his front door at midnight.
I am all for owning guns. I just think a lot of gun owners are super paranoid. Would a burglar actually KNOCK on your door? I think it's highly unlikely.
And how was he able to hear the knocks on his door but not the phone? Apparently the alarm company tried to call him numerous times. I will say if the Cops didn't identify themselves as Police, then that's a huge mistake obviously.
All I am saying is people need to use common sense. Even if it is your house, a cop will shoot your arse if you approach him with a gun. How is the Cop supposed to know who you are? He doesn't. Remember, your shitty alarm is the reason he's there. You called him.
Bottom line is it's best to keep that gun holstered unless you know FOR A FACT you need to shoot.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 4:06 pm to AUstar
HA! The homeowner fricked up? You are seriously saying that without an ounce of sarcasm?
Take the homeowner's actions completely out of it. The officer went against every bit of training he was given. He followed no procedures and acted recklessly. That part had nothing to do with what the guy was doing in his own home in the middle of the night.
Now, add to those actions by the officer the fact that nearly immediately following the incident he knowingly lied about what happened despite video evidence showing what actually happened.
Yes, being an officer is a difficult job. That does not mean we should bend over backwards in effort to justify poor performance and negligence.
Take the homeowner's actions completely out of it. The officer went against every bit of training he was given. He followed no procedures and acted recklessly. That part had nothing to do with what the guy was doing in his own home in the middle of the night.
Now, add to those actions by the officer the fact that nearly immediately following the incident he knowingly lied about what happened despite video evidence showing what actually happened.
Yes, being an officer is a difficult job. That does not mean we should bend over backwards in effort to justify poor performance and negligence.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 4:06 pm to AUstar
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people need to use common sense.
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best to keep that gun holstered unless you know FOR A FACT you need to shoot.
You don't think the cop should have taken this advice?
Posted on 7/29/19 at 4:07 pm to AUstar
quote:Again, the guy claims he doesn't have an alarm.
Remember, your shitty alarm is the reason he's there. You called him.
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