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re: Officer shoots homeowner after responding to a false alarm from alarm company (video)

Posted on 7/29/19 at 4:13 pm to
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17019 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 4:13 pm to
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Again, the guy claims he doesn't have an alarm.


Then what's the explanation? Someone said it was a cell phone alarm. Did GPS put a neighbors phone at his house? Seems plausible.
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 4:13 pm to
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So you think it's wise to go to your front door with a gun when a Cop is sitting on your porch? Cops are ambushed and killed almost daily. They don't like it when people approach them with guns.

Moreover, the alarm company said they repeatedly tried to contact this guy but got no answer. It seems to me that due diligence was done by both the alarm company and the Police here.

What, do you NOT want the cops to show up when your alarm goes off? What's the point of the alarm again?

I can't believe you actually got people to bite with this shitty troll

Smh OT
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25621 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 4:15 pm to
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And how was he able to hear the knocks on his door but not the phone? Apparently the alarm company tried to call him numerous times.


Ever think the alarm company is trying to lie their way out of liability just like the cop/department did? Keep in mind if the cop/department didn't think he fricked up they wouldn't have been lying about it...

Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
53917 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 4:25 pm to
To me, that is the biggest tell. What other reason did the officer have for lying about what happened? This wasn't a situation where he was under fire and could be in shock or something. He stated that the guy opened the door and pointed the gun at him. Nothing on the body cam footage backs up that claim. He shot through the side windows. Hell, I wonder how he could have even been sure it was a gun he saw in that situation.
All you have to do is pick any episode of Live PD to see how he should have approached this situation.
Clearly he knew he fricked up and immediately went into CYA mode.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 4:30 pm to
So alarm company says they got an alert from cell phone.

Homeowner says he doesnt have an alarm....

So is it safe to assume somebody somewhere is still waiting for the alarm company to send help?
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 4:35 pm to
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but I must say the homeowner fricked up here
Actually, the homeowner did really well not to shoot and kill the cop in self defense.

Even when the cop returned, the homeowner asked who he was and said to call the cops, so he had no idea it was a cop and not a burglar.
This post was edited on 7/29/19 at 4:36 pm
Posted by BigJake
Baton rouge
Member since Jan 2006
1534 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 4:47 pm to
You are either a cop, a troll or the biggest bootlegger I’ve ever seen.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49198 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 4:52 pm to
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Claiming the officer should be arrested is silly.


Why is that?
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
17812 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 5:32 pm to
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Claiming the officer should be arrested is silly.



COps should be held to a higher standard than civilians when it comes to firearm safety and assessing a threat. Not a lower standard.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 5:33 pm to
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Why is that?


Because this a civil matter where the officer just fuked up. Not criminal.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 5:35 pm to
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COps should be held to a higher standard than civilians when it comes to firearm safety and assessing a threat. Not a lower standard.


Then pass a law stating that.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
17812 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 5:35 pm to
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Because this a civil matter where the officer just fuked up. Not criminal


The cop shot a civilian 4 time in his own home And then apparently lied about it. I’d say that’s grounds for criminal charges.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 5:36 pm to
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The cop shot a civilian 4 time in his own home And then apparently lied about it. I’d say that’s grounds for criminal charges.


You can say what you want...but it still has to be supported by law
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49198 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 5:41 pm to
Using your logic the homeowner could have blasted the unidentified cop with a gun on his porch with no repercussions.

And we know that wouldn't happen.
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124384 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 5:44 pm to
I’m dying laughing of how the homeowner was speaking to the cop

Literally laughing my arse off
Posted by OptionRight
Down da skreet
Member since Sep 2010
796 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 5:50 pm to
That’s allowed when he shoots you in your junk and your chest in your own home, the ABSOLUTE only time he will take one of those mfers
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
17812 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 5:58 pm to
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You can say what you want...but it still has to be supported by law



Are you suggesting what he did has no legal precedent for criminal charges? That that’s allowed under the law?


This line of thinking is the reason the 5% of cops who are ignorant, good ole boy community college flunkie, Seal Team 6 wannabes outshine the other 95% who are good, professional service men.
Posted by eiasjsf
Ellensburg, Washington
Member since Sep 2009
448 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 6:01 pm to
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Would a burglar actually KNOCK on your door? I think it's highly unlikely.



You're right, home invasions never start with someone knocking on the door asking for help/phone/etc to get you to put down your guard and open the door.
Posted by Dragoon
Member since Jul 2019
112 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 6:12 pm to
Most people miss the biggest issue here.

The police officer did not properly exercise the escalation of the use of force principles. He had no reason to use deadly force since he wasn’t being met with deadly force. Not to mention he didn’t even have positive ID of what he was shooting at.

These are cop basics 101; I understand the salaries police officers generally make attracts people from lower socioeconomic backgrounds, and typically lower intelligence pools, but there has got to be certain standards that we demand from our officers who are given the responsibility of discharging weapons.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58061 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 6:17 pm to
How convenient that the audio doesn't record for the part where he claims he identified himself before shooting.
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