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re: Of all the gun law requests is wanting people trained and to get a license the dumbest?
Posted on 6/14/22 at 1:13 pm to mindbreaker
Posted on 6/14/22 at 1:13 pm to mindbreaker
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I'm not for taking peoples guns they currently have. But just to just hold form and say nothing can be done when it has been done other places and works is just disingenuous as padding the stats to get your agenda across
Let's cut to the chase. What exactly in your mind is gun safety and what does it include? While listing it tell us of one gun safety organization that actually teaches it.
Elaborate more into what training entails because right now the impression I get is some of you think hunting is some form of advance gun owning and cops are experts.
I think many of you, while good intentioned, don't differentiate the diffence between safe handling versus criminal use.
I say that because I have personally seen people push gun safety and didn't know what a center hold was but blow me off when I tell them they need to take a handgun training class. Seen that a few times.
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 1:14 pm to mindbreaker
quote:I don't think that, hence the "slow gradual march to more infringement". The anti-gun lobby is well aware that a blanket ban on firearms isn't feasible, and that isn't the tactic being employed, though the end goal is the same.
What on earth makes you think something as extreme as banning all guns would ever make it through congress?
Posted on 6/14/22 at 1:14 pm to mindbreaker
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but do you have one aside from screaming "infringed" every time a school shooting happens?
Yes. Stop making these shooters media stars. Tsarnev got on the cover of fricking Rolling Stone from killing people with a bomb.
We don't have a gun issue, we have a culture issue. And our culture makes immortal heroes out of guys who shoot little kids.
The quickest way to be on the tongue of every person in this nation, and for your name to live on forever, is to shoot up a school.
There's a reason why they say "there's no such thing as bad publicity" today.
This post was edited on 6/14/22 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 6/14/22 at 1:15 pm to NATidefan
Criminals dont obey laws by definition so any gun law that isn't specifically targeting them is designed just to frick us over.
Posted on 6/14/22 at 1:24 pm to Powerman
It wouldn't make a difference because criminals would (continue to) ignore both- along with any other gun laws "standing in their way".
So once again, they're only making proposals that would put more restrictions on currently law-abiding gun owners.
Example: Illinois is one of those states that require a "Firearm Owners Identification Card".
Wonder how many of those winners shooting up inner city Chicago have such a license? About none?
FOID
So once again, they're only making proposals that would put more restrictions on currently law-abiding gun owners.
Example: Illinois is one of those states that require a "Firearm Owners Identification Card".
Wonder how many of those winners shooting up inner city Chicago have such a license? About none?
FOID
Posted on 6/14/22 at 1:33 pm to NATidefan
I think we should incentivize it. Make everyone well trained in firearms. Then you have mutually assured destruction and some.folks will find out they have some morals again.
Posted on 6/14/22 at 1:37 pm to NATidefan
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People that say things like only highly trained and licensed people should be able to own a AR-15.
well.... yes
Posted on 6/14/22 at 1:37 pm to NATidefan
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People that say things like only highly trained and licensed people should be able to own a AR-15.
They're dumb and never have touched an AR in their lives.
Posted on 6/14/22 at 1:38 pm to mindbreaker
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. But just to just hold form and say nothing can be done when it has been done other places
"Something has to be done!"
That's how shite blizzards get started.
You have laws now you can't enforce. Good luck adding more.
Posted on 6/14/22 at 1:40 pm to NATidefan
Same tards coming up with new laws around gun purchases refuse to admit it is possible for everyone of voting age to get an ID
Posted on 6/14/22 at 1:42 pm to Porcine Human
quote:Why specifically ARs compared to other semi-auto rifles?
People that say things like only highly trained and licensed people should be able to own a AR-15.
well.... yes
Posted on 6/14/22 at 2:09 pm to EA6B
You’re right, the right never tries to infringe on the constitution, at least gun regulations have an actual reason behind them
The Patriot Act
Border Patrol Immunity
Anti-BDS Laws
Florida Social Media Law
The Patriot Act
Border Patrol Immunity
Anti-BDS Laws
Florida Social Media Law
Posted on 6/14/22 at 2:11 pm to Porcine Human
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well.... yes
Whats different about an AR 15 from other semi auto rifles?
Posted on 6/14/22 at 2:16 pm to Chicken
Suicides are the number one death I believe which of course brings us back to mental health and the funding for these facilities. Also making these places affordable or free.
Posted on 6/14/22 at 2:19 pm to NATidefan
I wonder if due to my knowledge and training, would i be seen as a threat?
I’m pretty dang surgical with a long rifle and can tactically shoot from various positions.
I’m pretty dang surgical with a long rifle and can tactically shoot from various positions.
Posted on 6/14/22 at 2:19 pm to dawgfan24348
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Suicides are the number one death I believe which of course brings us back to mental health and the funding for these facilities. Also making these places affordable or free.
You mean spending years, decades even, gutting mental healthcare at the local and state levels may have been a bad idea?
Posted on 6/14/22 at 2:20 pm to Fat and Happy
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I wonder if due to my knowledge and training, would i be seen as a threat?
Not if you lose all of your firearms in a tragic boating accident.
Posted on 6/14/22 at 2:25 pm to LegendInMyMind
When they’re underfunded and many people can’t afford said care because our system is incredibly broken then yes. Shocking I know if you put insufficient money into something it tends to not work properly
Posted on 6/14/22 at 2:26 pm to dawgfan24348
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Suicides are the number one death I believe which of course brings us back to mental health and the funding for these facilities. Also making these places affordable or free.
I think we need to focus on what's causing the all the depression.
I'm no expert, but I think focus on materialistic items, TV, and social media are to blame.
We are blasted daily with seemingly how much better other people's lives are than ours. What they have we don't, where they get to go in vacation and we don't, etc. People can't be happy with what they have and living within their means anymore.
As a friend of my Mom's told my daughter when she interviewed her for school about growing up in the 30 and 40s... "We didn't know we were poor cause everyone we knew were in the same situation as us".
That and kids being raised to be lazy. Alot of kids grow up not knowing how hard their parents worked and saved to spoil them with the life they had growing up, and now that they are adults they don't know how to handle it.
This post was edited on 6/14/22 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 6/14/22 at 2:32 pm to dawgfan24348
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Shocking I know if you put insufficient money into something it tends to not work properly
And then, when it doesn't work properly, you point to that as a reason to shut down facilities. It is a problem created by years of shite policy and poor handling.
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